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Yes, scrap it 18 56.25%
No, I enjoy being forced to buy one channel even if I don't want it. 14 43.75%
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TV license fee.....

Should the license fee be scrapped, and the BBC become commercial or subscription based?

I hate the way I have to buy the one channel I don't want (loads of crap repeats and low quality programmes) to legally be allowed to watch the channels i do want.

Sounds like communism to me.....
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If I had to pay £160 a year to watch the BBCs channels I probably wouldn't bother.
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I pay €116/year to not watch French TV.
And they have the balls to pub adverts on the channels too!

I'd happily pay the UK licence fee to get full Beeb access.
(Inc iPlayer.)

But till that option is available I'll keep watchin' (and listenin') you lot keep payin'.



Without the licence fee the Beeb would turn into the type of
commercial dross that is ITV. I can watch ITV for free too, if I want to.
But choose not to because it is utter ****. (As is most UK commercial radio.)
 
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Keep the licence fee, it's no worse than paying for satellite channels then having to pay again when something interesting comes on... it's called pay per view

I would gladly sell my house and everything I own to help the BBC
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I have joined the petition to pay only half next year in the "No To Sky" F1 ****-up. I will once they loose F1 altogether be refusing to pay at all as the BBC is not what it used to be. On terrestrial tv the only channel worth watching is C4.
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Should the license fee be scrapped, and the BBC become commercial or subscription based?

I hate the way I have to buy the one channel I don't want (loads of crap repeats and low quality programmes) to legally be allowed to watch the channels i do want.

Sounds like communism to me.....
It is. Everyone pays a small fee to enable a fantastically diverse and original TV broadcasting company to operate. Admittedly, it's lost its way at times, but the concept is honest and honourable.

Commercial TV is not. It's not simply a question of "well, I just tivo it and ffw thru the adverts" - he who pays the piper calls the tune. If it's not you, then it's someone who probably doesn't really care about you or the programmes that you (or people who aren't like you at all) would want to watch.





Watch ITV1 pretty much every day of the week. What do you see? It's empty pap most of the time.

The BBC is responsible for some of the great TV moments in history.












and Morecambe and Wise were funnier on BBC.
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Scrap it - begrudge paying for the BBC. There won't be all the F1 races next season....one of the few things I actually enjoy watching
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I watch lots of bbc stuff. Keep it
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I do watch the BBC but think if they had to earn the viewing figures then they might improve the content.
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When you take into account everything that the BBC does
the fee is a small price to pay.



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When you take into account everything that the BBC does
the fee is a small price to pay.
Yeah Gibbo, repeats are well worth the fee. This unbiased argument is well past its sell by date and when the directors were caught with their huge salaries and expenses at our expense that was the final straw for many. Also, their heavy handed, threatening and intimidation tactics for non-payers is criminal and disgraceful.

F1 and Paxman are the only reasons why i currently pay it, and their investment in new drama is tiny, unless of course you consider reality TV entertainment?
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there should be an option to de-tune your tv from bbc so you dont have to pay for it.

as already mentioned, apart from the F1 what's the point?
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there should be an option to de-tune your tv from bbc so you dont have to pay for it.

as already mentioned, apart from the F1 what's the point?
nothing, nothing at all
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BBC really is the poor relation of the TV channels, Discovery and National Geographic have them soundly beaten for documentaries, comedy central and FX have them licked for comedy, Sky has far better news, so what's left? mindless repeats of crap shows that weren't funny first time round like only fools and horses, and the royle family, and 'reality' tv that rots your mind so fast most people are drooling imbeciles before the first 15 mins are up..

It wouldn't be so bad if they actually offered anything of quality..
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And the radio and the internet and the Open University etc etc etc


All crap


Perhaps it should stop being called a TV licence so that people stop
assuming that it only covers the TV channels.



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BBC really is the poor relation of the TV channels, Discovery and National Geographic have them soundly beaten for documentaries, comedy central and FX have them licked for comedy, Sky has far better news, so what's left? mindless repeats of crap shows that weren't funny first time round like only fools and horses, and the royle family, and 'reality' tv that rots your mind so fast most people are drooling imbeciles before the first 15 mins are up..

It wouldn't be so bad if they actually offered anything of quality..
Totally disagree.

The only 2 things that have hamstrung the Beeb are it's insistence to
chase to the bottom with reality shitows and the underhanded
way uk.gov has dumped paying for the World Service and Digital switch over
onto the BBC thereby effectively cutting funding. (i.e taking money from the license
fee to pay for other stuff. )

BBC Natural history, science, politics and drama run rings around most
other countries' networks.

Ad-break every 10 minutes. Non-impartial reporting and cheap reality shows
and imports are what await in a non-BBC future.

It's got flaws but you just have to look at the alternative.

And comparing with US cable like FX, HBO, Showtime etc is a bit unfair as
to actually have them in the US costs a fortune. Most people can only afford
network TV or basic cable. You are looking at something in excess of $150
PER MONTH for premium channel access. I think....


I think the average US home pays in the region of $900/year.

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there should be an option to de-tune your tv from bbc so you dont have to pay for it.
I'd agree with that. It might not leave the BBC as a viable entity but that isn't justification for a compulsory license being required to use recieving equiptment - even if the BBC's channels aren't wanted or are being received.

The proof of the pudding would be in the eating - how many Britons would be happy to pay £160 a year for the BBC's services if it was turned into a subscription service? I bet there would be plenty that'd rather do without it and just have the free channels or free to use websites.

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But it'd not just for the TV


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I don't understand why some people think they are hard done by in the UK.

It's waaay worse in most other EU countries as we have to pay for (completely
unwatchable) TV, (tired and dull) radio and then endure adverts too.
 
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I don't understand why some people think they are hard done by in the UK.

It's waaay worse in most other EU countries as we have to pay for (completely
unwatchable) TV, (tired and dull) radio and then endure adverts too.
Thats like saying you shouldn't complain about the French police because Afghanistan has it so much worse...

We might not be hard done by in comparision to others, but it doesn't mean those of us who disagree with the status quo should sit back and accept it.

For the record I think BBC offer excellent broadcasting, Internet & radio services but I resent being compelled to pay for it to be able to use recieving equiptment to recieve free TV/Internet/Radio etc. I think Waitrose offer excellent groceries and customer service but I mostly shop in Asda and I'd be thoroughly ****ed off if I had to pay for Waitrose as well. Its an obscure analogy but I think its appropriate - after all the BBC are providing a service which in normal circumstances we would be able to choose whether or not to pay to recieve them.
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