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View Poll Results: Quad or Twin zorst for 147 GTA?
Twin Ragazzon 283 8 10.53%
Twin Supersprint 489 19 25.00%
Quad Ragazzon 445 22 28.95%
Quad Supersprint 789 21 27.63%
Other 6 7.89%
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147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

* *EDIT* * JUST REALISED THAT THE PRICES QUOTED ABOVE (from Gazzella) ON THE POLL ARE NOT INCLUDING VAT. THE PRICES INCLUDING VAT & CENTRE SECTIONS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND ARE AS FOLLOWS...

Twin Ragazzon + Centre Silencer + VAT = £ 479.40

Twin Supersprint + Centre Silencer + VAT = £ 878.90

Quad Ragazzon + Centre Silencer + VAT = £ 669.75

Quad Supersprint + Centre Silencer + VAT = £ 1231.40

Right then, this makes my decision a little easier..........*EDIT*

Hello. I reckon I'll want to change me exhaust at some point on me car, but which one??
I obviously want a Supersprint cos they're the dogs..., but have you seen the price of them...ooof !
But Autodelta use Ragazzons so they must think highly of them, and ive heard Pabloss's Quad Ragazzon and that sounds real nice.
I think I like the looks of the quad outlets better cos its more balanced, but i dont think i'd be that bothered if i got a twin (i think).
Also is there any issue of more or less bhp with the quad (i reckon less if anything) or is the difference (if any) so marginal, its not worth worrying bout?
Does anyone know of any dyno tests results between the 2 makes or the 2 types (twin & quad) ??
And then the prices.....jeez.
I'm only going to compare Supersprint and Ragazzon twins and quads.
The difference is massive between a twin Ragazzon and a quad Supersprint, and thats before a centre pipe gets factored in.
£283 vs £789, thats nearly 3 times the cost !
What do you reckon ???
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p.s. heres a picture of a quad and a twin, just to help the decision.
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If you go onto YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. mate and search ALFA RAGAZZON I'm sure you'll be swayed,

It sounds incredible on the 156 V6 so should sound amazing on the 147 GTA.

Plus, it's alot cheaper for what really does appear to be no reason.

BHP gain, you'll maybe look at a 5BHP gain either way, and it won't be noticeable to be fair, you need to get the one that proves A) Most value for money, B) Which you believe sounds the best and, C) Which you like the look of the best.

Good luck mate!

(But go with the Quad Rag, )
 
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

Defo get a quad.

I don't think a backbox will make any difference either way to peak power, or midrange torque or whatever, as the exhaust gasses've still got 4 cats to pass through first and these are what are going to be most restrictive to gas flow.
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Got to be a Quad
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

Quad cos it looks and Ragazzon beecause it is much cheaper!
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

Go for a quad and get the one that is made from stainless. If they are both stainless get the Ragazzon.
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

From personal experience of hearing these cars.. I would def get the superprint... and never a quad as it's just too loud!
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

im normally very much against aftermarket quad exhausts, if it didnt get one in the factory you are a *** for putting one on and a bit of a wannabe, however both GTA's look odd with only the twin exhaust and should have had the quad as standard, as per the Brera.


putting a quad exhaust on a 1.8 or 2.0 car would make you look like a bit of a wannabe, putting a slightly larger single pipe is ok though because it looks like thats what it should be. i wouldnt compel anyone to leave the peashooter original one on the car but it would depend what they intended to replace it with.

the 2.2 brera has a quad exhaust because it would look bloody daft without one, the 147gta looks a bit wrong without a quad exhaust, it looks as though it should have one, and the rear was probably designed to have one but someone decided to penny pinch.

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I disagree with the above statement, the basic 156 TS's came with pea shooter styled tail pipes, why on Earth would you compeel someone to keep that on there...?
 
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I disagree with the above statement, the basic 156 TS's came with pea shooter styled tail pipes, why on Earth would you compeel someone to keep that on there...?
Don't even get him started on side skirts..

Pablos' sounds awesome and thats a Ragga.. Not heard the SS quad but the SS twin on Swanny's sounds awesome!
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

Definitely a quad,if moneys no object the super,if it is then the ragga
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Isn't the supersprint mild steel? I wouldn't spend that amount of money on anthing that wasn't stainless.
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Cheers everyone, keep them votes coming.

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Isn't the supersprint mild steel? I wouldn't spend that amount of money on anthing that wasn't stainless.
I was under the impression that both were stainless steel, i'll check that though...
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

I would go for the most expensive choice. Dont know why.
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

Does the 156 GTA come with Twin Ragazzon as standard?

And therefore, is that the standard option on the 147 GTA?



Quad does look good though - especially with that 3.7 badge on the back indicating Autodelta may have breathed on the Alfa V6 turning it from a hot hatch into a monster
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Does the 156 GTA come with Twin Ragazzon as standard?

And therefore, is that the standard option on the 147 GTA?

Quad does look good though - especially with that 3.7 badge on the back indicating Autodelta may have breathed on the Alfa V6 turning it from a hot hatch into a monster

hi mr greedy. cheers for your vote.
the 156/147 GTA just comes with standard alfa twin exhaust (not a ragazzon).
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

The twin exhausts typically give 1bhp more than the quad ones becuase the quads are not truely seperated exhaust flows, so really the right set of exhaust is essentially a fancy dummy which creates a nice sound.

The twin ragazzon sounds great on a GTA, just dont get the straight through centre pipe option!!! Way too droney and chavvy.
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

Isn't there another option that would set you out from the crowd a bit? What about twin ovals, one each side?
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It'd look like a BM 335i!!



Twin Ragga for me
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It'd look like a BM 335i!!
Or a wheelbarrow..
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Re: 147 GTA; which zorst? Twin or quad

I've been trying to make a decision on this too. In the end, I've decided on a Supersprint Twin.

Why?

Firstly, I decided on a twin because a quad involves cutting the bumper - I don't like the idea of that. Secondly, I think it looks a bit too "OTT"....I prefer the OEM look, even if it does look like it should have been quad from the start.

And I chose Supersprint for a number of reasons - mainly the fact you get what you pay for. I've heard some issues regarding quality on the CSC, whereas the Supersprint has a better reputation and is RR proven. You've also got the option of manifolds, etc should you want upgrades at a later date.

I'd rather pay £500 for a good, proven, quality twin than a cheaper and less effective quad.

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Nice one Matty. good that youve made a firm decision. I totally agree with what you're saying, but then i also totally agree with others are saying in favour of the quad ragazzon and quad supersprint.
I think the only firm decision I have made at this point is that the twin ragazzon is out for me, so only 3 left to deliberate.
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Isn't there another option that would set you out from the crowd a bit? What about twin ovals, one each side?
Have never seen these zorsts, dont think they exist (may be wrong here) and cant be arsed going to get some made up cos it would be a nightmare.
If anyone knows of any pics of these, post them i would love to see them, but the picture i have in my head at the mo isnt brilliant, but then i cant make a proper decision from my imagination. They may look brill, u never know.
I do think the twin/quad combinations are spot on for the GTA's like. When I put that Supersprint Oval on Puds when i had it, after the event I always wished i had put on the Supersprint Twin instead.
Cheers for input anyway, new ideas always appreciated.
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Have ever seen these zorsts, don't think they exist?
They probably don't, I was just trying to think of something a bit 'different'.
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I was just trying to think of something a bit 'different'.
And I salute you for that
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