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View Poll Results: Should He be allowed to represent Britain at Athletics?
No he bloody shouldn't - sodding drug cheat 22 44.00%
Yes he has served his time 15 30.00%
Who cares....athletics is so dull 13 26.00%
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Not Happy Dwain Chambers

I firmly believe that the majority of athletes are drug cheats....as the scale and money of Athletics has meant that great sums of money can be earned from the sport....poses the real question of the actual integrity of the games and events held.....

It seems to me that the cheats tend to be one step ahead of the testers - and fall flat if they get their sums wrong....

But for me if you have been found out - that should be your lot.....no more involvement in the sport....what do you think?




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Re: Dwain Chambers

I think the only way sport will EVER have a level playing field is if they just say "fine, use whatever drugs you want, we're not bothered."

Then everyone will use the performance enhancing drugs and no-one will gain an edge because of it.
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Yes they will, because there are drugs, and there are drugs. Those with the most money and most advanced labs will win, and the playing field will be even more uneven.
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Yes they will, because there are drugs, and there are drugs. Those with the most money and most advanced labs will win, and the playing field will be even more uneven.
If everyone was taking them they'd get stupidly cheap and in the end, there'd be no advantage.. Like the OP said, most 'using' athletes are one step ahead of the testers and only get caught out when they mess up.

Anyway, some athletes all have advantages over others naturally, which is down to genetics. A lot of the stuff these athletes are putting in their bodies are produced naturally, for example "doping" is re-injecting your own red blood cells that have been removed some weeks beforehand back into your body, improving the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood. Some people have naturally high levels of red blood cells, more than someone with average levels would have even after a doping session..

Athletics is more and more becoming about science, training techniques are becoming universal and perfect, so it is getting less and less about how much effort you put in rather than how much of a "best fit" human being you are to begin with.

Look at long distance-running, usually dominated by smaller Africans, eg Kenyan's, they are naturally superior to most others at long distance running, down to genetics. World championship 100m, 200m, 400m, hurdles etc, most countries are represented by a bigger-built black guy, whether they are from England, America, etc. Genetics gives them a massive advantage, its all to do with their capacity to deliver massive power in a short space of time, its for similar reasons why Nordic types pretty much win every world's strongest man event.

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Should be setting an example to the younger generation.

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Cheat.....Banned for life. It should be simple. All this not available for testing should be punished as well. Miss a test, miss the rest of the season.
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If he's served a just punishment given out under the rules and is now elligible to race then he should be allowed.
However if that is the case the rules should be changed in my opinion.
 
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For the sake of the sport this guy should not run again under the countries flag....

Who remembers the poor guys that had to hand there medals back because of him...

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Who remembers the poor guys that had to hand there medals back because of him...
Did he help a relay team to victory?
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Did he help a relay team to victory?
Yep, and the medals had to be handed back
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Should stay banned IMHO
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He is a cheat, stay banned
 
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Agree with all who says stay banned
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I have just heard they are going to let him race...

An utter disgrace...

The british athletics board should hang there head in shame....

What kind of message does it send to our kids....getting ready for the Olympics.....cheat...if you get caught - do 2 year ban and come back with open arms.....



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Yep, and the medals had to be handed back
Thats really terrible. Its one thing to lose your own medal, but to cost the rest of your team thats atrocious. No-one should allow him on their team, just because its obvious he doesn't care about anyone but himself.
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Thats really terrible. Its one thing to lose your own medal, but to cost the rest of your team thats atrocious. No-one should allow him on their team, just because its obvious he doesn't care about anyone but himself.
Hopefully he will become that little boy at school that no one picks to be on their team, until he becomes the last option.
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They should just run a special enhanced Olympics
and let them take whatever they want.
 
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They should just run a special enhanced Olympics
and let them take whatever they want.
Thats a good idea, normal Olympics and 'enhanced' Olympics
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Some would cheat in the normal olympics and still take drugs. The plonkers in the enhanced would try to fit hidden rocket packs or be shooting up on the starting line
 
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I think it's sad that drugs cheats are allowed to race but Oscar Pistorius (The Paralympic 'Blade Runner') isn't, because his 'blades' allegedly give him an advantage (which most people aren't even sure is correct anyway)
 
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I think it's sad that drugs cheats are allowed to race but Oscar Pistorius (The Paralympic 'Blade Runner') isn't, because his 'blades' allegedly give him an advantage (which most people aren't even sure is correct anyway)
Whole-heartedly agree with you
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Re: Dwain Chambers

Personally, I'd say you got caught cheating, go away, get a life but forget about serious competition forever.

As the "laws" of the sport stand however, he was banned for a specific period. Ergo, he is entitled to resume his career.

Actually I don't find athletics interesting so voted "who cares".
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Re: Dwain Chambers

Stopped following athletics and cycling due to the obvious drug usage.
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Stopped following athletics and cycling due to the obvious drug usage.
Well BF if you cut down your drug usage you would probably be able to concentrate on the coverage....





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