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Audi wins at Le Mans 2006

Audi made history.Not only the diesel engines are economical,environmental friendly blah blah blah but they will claim from now on that it can win races as well

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a brit included as well, alan mcnish

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In days gone by they would've been
burned for their heresy and witchcraft!!!!!!
 
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They won driving diesels!?!?!?
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And they were more fuel efficient as well and 4 laps ahead and pole position and fastest in warmup


"Soot power" is here to stay for a while longer
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Audi made history.Not only the diesel engines are economical,environmental friendly blah blah blah but they will claim from now on that it can win races as well

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7...0lemans7wj.jpg
Environmentally friendly?!!? Not diesel - how the environmentalists were conned with that one.

Mind you, us petrol-drivers will never hear the end of this now......
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Environmentally friendly?!!? Not diesel - how the environmentalists were conned with that one.
Sorry, what?

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Sorry, what?


Diesels produce less CO2 and you get better fuel economy.

However Diesels produce more NOx and substantially more
particulates.

So you've just swapped one type of pollution for another.

Typical government bull**** thinking. They are only interested
in reducing CO2.
 
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On the pollution front, Le Mans regulations say that no car may emit visible smoke. Big problem for a 5.5 litre V12 twin turbo diesel. Audi fitted particulate filters to get around this, as well as using a new injection technology to get a cleaner, more efficient burn. The engines should be less polluting.

On the winning front, a big contributor to the Audi win was their advantage due to the regulations. They had an advantage of about 100hp over their main rivals, the Pescarolo team, who used 5 litre V10 Judd engines. The Audi cold simply pull out and overtake any other car on the track with ease.

It was eerie watching them go past, they were really quiet, you could hardly hear the engine at all. As they came towards you under braking all you could hear was brake and tyre whine. As they accellerated away all you could hear was a loud turbo whistle. To be honest if someone told me it was a new prototype electric car I could have believed it, there was just no engine noise.

I guess Audi were out to dispel some diesel myths; ie that they are slow and noisy. They seem to have done it. Give it another 10 or 15 years and I think petrol cars will be in a big minority, the wind of change in blowing. You heard it here first.
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Give it another 10 or 15 years and I think petrol cars will be in a big minority, the wind of change in blowing. You heard it here first.


Also Bio-Diesel is cheap and easy to produce.
(Grow plant, extract oil)

Where as the Bio-fuel equiv of petrol is not.
(Grow plant, ferment, distill)
 
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Diesels produce less CO2 and you get better fuel economy.

However Diesels produce more NOx and substantially more
particulates.

So you've just swapped one type of pollution for another.

Typical government bull**** thinking. They are only interested
in reducing CO2.
The particulates from Diesel engines are larger, so are more visible, hence the smoke, whereas the particulates from petrol engines are more minute and have more chance of being inhaled, causing cancer.
The larger diesel particles cause more smog at a much lower level (heavier particles), but that's not what affects global warming.

Over half of the effects of global warming are caused by CO2, the rest is split between a number of other gases, including CFCs, Mmethane, Nitrous Oxide and Tropospheric Ozone.

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I thought they won it last year in a diesal too
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......."Soot power" is here to stay for a while longer
Yes it is the future for the moment....

With Le Mans, Audi are promoting the brand as a sporty car and also their technology, (Vorsprung durch..etc). Since Alfa/Fiat pioneered the common rail and multijet injection systems, currently make some of the best diesel engines available and also want to compete with Audi and BMW in the marketplace, is it not time that Alfa entered Le Mans with a diesel?
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Major contributors to green house cases are Herbivors shuch as cows, Bogs ,marshes wetlands and strangely enough Mature Trees, car are a minority contibutor compared to othe rhuman activity. Even water vapour in the atmoshere is a signnificant greenhouse gas.

When you look at historical global warming that has happened on a regular basis over the last 2 million years or so, the Temperature rises and then the CO2 levels increase. When CO2 levels are very low we typically are in an ice age of some sort.

It is likely that the human activity will only change when the next ice age begins. Certainly there is a worry that the extra fresh water from melyting ice will stop the North atlantic conveyor.

If I understand the history of the world correctly then I beleive that ice on the land in the manner we see it now, is abnormal and that typically the earth was relatively ice free until a couple of million years ago.

Somehow I suspect that Humans take themselves too seriously. Not only do they believe that they are the creation of some "wonder god" but they think that their actions will change the world....a comet hitting the earth will definity do that more quickely I suspect and there have been a few of them including one which supposedly set up the destruction of Gonwanaland and the formation of Australia and Antartica etc.



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a brit included as well, alan mcnish

congrats

A Scot even. He comes from my home town of Dumfries. His dad has a BMW dealership there.

Dumfriesshire, for some unknown reason, seems to produce fast drivers. David (square jaw)Coulthard comes from this area, too.
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I thought they won it last year in a diesal too
This year's car (the R10) is new and is the first to have a diesel engine. Last year's car (R8) had a 4.2 V8 petrol engine.
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This year's car (the R10) is new and is the first to have a diesel engine. Last year's car (R8) had a 4.2 V8 petrol engine.
Cheers Bill, think I got it confused with a thread from a while back about Audi's entry this year
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This year's car (the R10) is new and is the first to have a diesel engine. Last year's car (R8) had a 4.2 V8 petrol engine.
I think the R8 had a 3.5 litre V8 twin turbo. The regs don't allow turbo engines any bigger.

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Also Bio-Diesel is cheap and easy to produce.
(Grow plant, extract oil)
Peugeot are entering next year with a diesel car (similar engine to Audi, 5.5 litre V12 twin turbo) which they reckon they're going to run on bio-diesel.
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I think the R8 had a 3.5 litre V8 twin turbo. The regs don't allow turbo engines any bigger.
Yep, you're right. I should have looked it up first.
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Re: Audi wins at Le Mans 2006

If the rest of the cars were like the Audi there would be less people watching. They did not make the hairs stand up on the back of your neck as they went past if you happened to be looking the other way you could easilly miss them definately in a different class to the rest of the field.

Half the spectical is the noise and flames the Lambo and Spyker the most entertaining for me allthough when one of the Radicals hit the barrier just in front of me it got my attention.

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How on earth would you manage to sleep if it was to quiet
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Alan McNish,

Why Toyota never give him a second year god only knows. Hes a good driver.

Scotland have some record of good drivers, and I for one wish them all the luck.
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Re: Audi wins at Le Mans 2006

Was it a level playing field for the Diesels or were they given some competitive advantage in terms of specs or anything?

I was expecting them to do well in terms of fuel consumption/reliability but apparently they were fast too ?!
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