MotoGP / Moto2 / Moto 3 : Season 2012 - Alfa Romeo Forum
You are currently unregistered, register for more features.    
International Motor Sport F1, Rally, Tourers, whatever...

Reply
 
Thread Tools
(Post Link) post #1 of 582 Old 01-01-12 Thread Starter
Status: BORED
 
David P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 85,204
Garage
Wave MotoGP / Moto2 / Moto 3 : Season 2012


Spoiler Alert


If you haven't watched qualifying or the races & don't want to know the results best not look at this thread as it will contain spoilers, so don't say you weren't warned




Also as there is/will be threads for WSB / BSB / Road Racing etc. please only post results or discussions in the appropriate threads so people can read certain threads without seeing spoilers for other classes they may not yet have viewed


=================================





A new year with many changes for machinery & teams/riders & hopefully a great seasons safe racing ahead


Roll on Qatar



The Official MotoGP page Home MotoGP | The Official MotoGP Website



Current 2012 Calendar

8 April Losail Circuit | Qatar

29 April Jerez | Spain

6 May Estoril | Portugal

20 May Le Mans | France

3 June Circuit de Catalunya | Catalunya

17 June Silverstone | Great Britain

30 June Assen | Netherlands

8 July Sachsenring | Germany

15 July Mugello | Italy

29 July Mazda Raceway | United States

19 August Indianapolis | Indianapolis

26 August Automotodrom Brno | Czech Republic

16 September Misano | San Marino

30 September Motorland Aragon | Aragon

14 October Motegi | Japan

21 October Sepang Circuit | Malaysia

28 October Phillip Island | Australia

11 November Comunitat Valenciana | Valencia
David P is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
(Post Link) post #2 of 582 Old 05-01-12 Thread Starter
Status: BORED
 
David P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 85,204
Garage
Dovi also in a race to recover for testing after breaking his right collar bone in a MX crash.
David P is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Quote:
Originally Posted by David P View Post
Dovi also in a race to recover for testing after breaking his right collar bone in a MX crash.
Team managers must hate the Winter break.......riders need to do these things to stay fit though.....
Stu GTV is offline  
(Post Link) post #4 of 582 Old 05-01-12 Thread Starter
Status: BORED
 
David P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 85,204
Garage
You're not wrong, sign a rider for the year & he gets injured before he even starts the racing season & possible misses testing not to mention races

You'd think there'd be some gym equipment developed at this stage to provide an alternative.
David P is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
You would think so but I suppose nothing beats riding a bike whether it's mountain bike, MX or road bike......all require the basic skills...... balance, hand/feet/eye co-ordination......
Stu GTV is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Quote:
Originally Posted by David P View Post
You're not wrong, sign a rider for the year & he gets injured before he even starts the racing season & possible misses testing not to mention races
Tech 3 seem to always start a season with injured/recovering riders...............Herve Poncharel must have a strong heart to survive his teams bad luck......
Stu GTV is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Must be frustrating not having a piece of paper to sign........
Attached Images
File Type: jpg lucky Vale.jpg (88.9 KB, 6 views)
Stu GTV is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
News from Wrooom and Ducati.....the GP12 bikes are 90% new..........
motogp.com · Preziosi: "90 percent of the bike is new"
Stu GTV is offline  
(Post Link) post #9 of 582 Old 12-01-12 Thread Starter
Status: BORED
 
David P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 85,204
Garage
Hopefully that's good news & it sounds like the bike will now be easier to setup with a greater degree of adjustment available.
David P is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Quote:
Originally Posted by David P View Post
Hopefully that's good news & it sounds like the bike will now be easier to setup with a greater degree of adjustment available.
The main thing that VR was unhappy with was corner entry speed.......
I got to see that close up at The Loop at Silverstone and as others got faster he didn't improve. Elias looked quicker( and was) in the inner section......
Top 4 in WSB had faster lap times in the race compared to VR's qualifying time, and Hoppers qualifying lap was 1.74secs faster than VR's qualifying time
So happy that they dumped the GP11.1 and GP11.2......they were embarrassing......

Last edited by Stu GTV; 12-01-12 at 15:05.
Stu GTV is offline  
kevjtd
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu GTV View Post
The main thing that VR was unhappy with was corner entry speed.......
I got to see that close up at The Loop at Silverstone and as others got faster he didn't improve. Elias looked quicker( and was) in the inner section......
Top 4 in WSB had faster lap times in the race compared to VR's qualifying time, and Hoppers qualifying lap was 1.74secs faster than VR's qualifying time
So happy that they dumped the GP11.1 and GP11.2......they were embarrassing......
didn't realise the wsb bikes were as close (or better) to the gp bikes.

was that with the wet laps in quali at the gp though?

my memory doesn't go back further than a few days
 
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevjtd View Post
was that with the wet laps in quali at the gp though?
FP1 was dry, FP2 was wet, FP3 and Qualifying was dry, Warm up and Race were wet......

Average top 5 times were
FP1 ......2:04
FP2.......2:17
FP3.......2:03
Quali......2:02
Warm up....2:20
Fastest lap for the race was 2:19.071
Stoner fastest lap was 2:02020
Rossi fastest lap was 2:05.781
Hopkins fastest lap was 2:04.041
All times dry qualifying.....

Last edited by Stu GTV; 12-01-12 at 23:32.
Stu GTV is offline  
(Post Link) post #13 of 582 Old 13-01-12 Thread Starter
Status: BORED
 
David P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 85,204
Garage
Provisional 2012 MotoGP entry list :

1 CASEY STONER AUS - HONDA TEAM, HONDA
26 DANI PEDROSA SPA - HONDA TEAM, HONDA

99 JORGE LORENZO SPA - YAMAHA FACTORY RACING, YAMAHA
11 BEN SPIES USA - YAMAHA FACTORY RACING, YAMAHA

46 VALENTINO ROSSI ITA - DUCATI TEAM, DUCATI
69 NICKY HAYDEN USA - DUCATI TEAM, DUCATI

4 ANDREA DOVIZIOSO ITA - YAMAHA TECH 3, YAMAHA
35 CAL CRUTCHLOW GBR - YAMAHA TECH 3, YAMAHA

19 ALVARO BAUTISTA SPA - HONDA GRESINI, HONDA

6 STEFAN BRADL GER - LCR HONDA MotoGP, HONDA

8 HECTOR BARBERA SPA - PRAMAC RACING TEAM, DUCATI

17 KAREL ABRAHAM CZE - CARDION AB MOTORACING, DUCATI







CRT*

5 COLIN EDWARDS USA - FORWARD RACING, SUTER*

9 DANILO PETRUCCI ITA - IODA RACING PROJECT, IODA*

13 ANTHONY WEST AUS - SPEED MASTER, ART*

14 RANDY DE PUNIET FRA - ASPAR TEAM MotoGP, ART*
20 ALEIX ESPARGARO SPA - ASPAR TEAM MotoGP, ART*

51 MICHELE PIRRO ITA - HONDA GRESINI, FTR*

22 IVAN SILVA SPA - BQR, BQR-FTR*
68 YONNY HERNANDEZ COL - BQR, BQR-FTR*

77 JAMES ELLISON GBR - PAUL BIRD RACING, ART*
David P is offline  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
fredzedex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 2,048
I didn't know Gino Rea was in moto2 this year on a Moriwaki.That'll shake things up a bit.

He'll probably not walk away with the title but it will be entertaining watching him try!!

GO !! Gino
fredzedex is offline  
kevjtd
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu GTV View Post
FP1 was dry, FP2 was wet, FP3 and Qualifying was dry, Warm up and Race were wet......

Average top 5 times were
FP1 ......2:04
FP2.......2:17
FP3.......2:03
Quali......2:02
Warm up....2:20
Fastest lap for the race was 2:19.071
Stoner fastest lap was 2:02020
Rossi fastest lap was 2:05.781
Hopkins fastest lap was 2:04.041
All times dry qualifying.....
bugger me stu, that's interesting.

always assumed the gp bikes would be at least 5 secs a lap quicker. never looked into it that much.

interesting also to hear about hoppers struggles to ride the gp bikes due to the extra physical effort needed where is the time gained back by wsb bikes then, top speed? gp must surely corner, brake and punch out of the corners better due to their lighter nature not to mention the enormous amount of refining of the bikes?
 
kevjtd
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by fredzedex View Post
I didn't know Gino Rea was in moto2 this year on a Moriwaki.That'll shake things up a bit.

He'll probably not walk away with the title but it will be entertaining watching him try!!

GO !! Gino
may follow the moto2 this year then, gino is always an entertaining rider
 
(Post Link) post #17 of 582 Old 13-01-12 Thread Starter
Status: BORED
 
David P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 85,204
Garage
Moto2 provisional entry list :


3 SIMONE CORSI ITA - IODA RACING PROJECT, IODA
4 RANDY KRUMMENACHER SWI - GP TEAM SWITZERLAND, SUTER
5 JOHANN ZARCO FRA - JIR Moto2, MOTOBI
7 ALEXANDER LUNDH SWE - MZ RACING TEAM MZ-RE, HONDA
8 GINO REA GBR - GRESINI RACING Moto2, MORIWAKI
9 KENNY NOYES USA - ARGUIÑANO RACING TEAM, TBA
12 THOMAS LUTHI SWI - INTERWETTEN-PADDOCK Moto2, SUTER
14 RATTHAPARK WILAIROT THA - GRESINI RACING Moto2, MORIWAKI
15 ALEX DE ANGELIS ITA - FORWARD RACING, SUTER
18 NICOLAS TEROL SPA - ASPAR TEAM Moto2, SUTER
19 XAVIER SIMEON BEL - TECH 3 RACING, TECH 3
24 TONI ELIAS SPA - ASPAR TEAM Moto2, SUTER
29 ANDREA IANNONE ITA - SPEED MASTER, FTR
30 TAKAAKI NAKAGAMI JAP - ITALTRANS RACING TEAM, KALEX
36 MIKA KALLIO FIN - MARC VDS RACING TEAM, KALEX
38 BRADLEY SMITH GBR - TECH 3 RACING, TECH 3
40 POL ESPARGARO SPA - PONS RACING PONS, KALEX
44 ROBERTO ROLFO ITA - TECHNOMAG-CIP, SUTER
45 SCOTT REDDING GBR - MARC VDS RACING TEAM, KALEX
47 ANGEL RODRIGUEZ SPA - SAG TEAM, FTR
49 AXEL PONS SPA - PONS RACING PONS, KALEX
57 ERIC GRANADO BRA - JIR Moto2, MOTOBI
60 JULIAN SIMON SPA - BQR, FTR
63 MIKE DI MEGLIO FRA - SPEED UP, FTR
71 CLAUDIO CORTI ITA - ITALTRANS RACING TEAM, KALEX
72 YUKI TAKAHASHI JAP - FORWARD RACING, SUTER
76 MAX NEUKIRCHNER GER - KIEFER RACING, KALEX
77 DOMINIQUE AEGERTER SWI - TECHNOMAG-CIP, SUTER
80 ESTEVE RABAT SPA - PONS RACING PONS, KALEX
82 ELENA ROSELL SPA - QMMF RACING TEAM, MORIWAKI
88 RICKY CARDUS SPA - QMMF RACING TEAM, MORIWAKI
93 MARC MARQUEZ SPA - MONLAU COMPETICION, SUTER
TO BE ANNOUNCED - SAG TEAM, FTR
David P is offline  
(Post Link) post #18 of 582 Old 13-01-12 Thread Starter
Status: BORED
 
David P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 85,204
Garage
Moto3 provisional entry list :


3 LUIGI MORCIANO ITA - IODA RACING PROJECT, IODA
5 ROMANO FENATI ITA - TEAM ITALIA FMI, IODA
7 EFREN VAZQUEZ SPA - TEAM LAGLISSE, HONDA
8 JACK MILLER AUS - TECHNO RACING, HONDA
9 TONI FINSTERBUSCH GER - RACING TEAM GERMANY, HONDA
10 ALEXIS MASBOU FRA - TECHNO RACING, HONDA
11 SANDRO CORTESE GER - RED BULL KTM AJO, KTM
14 BRAD BINDER RSA - RW RACING GP KALEX, KTM
19 ALESSANDRO TONUCCI ITA - TEAM ITALIA FMI, IODA
23 ALBERTO MONCAYO SPA - ASPAR TEAM, KALEX KTM
25 MAVERICK VIÑALES SPA – BQR, FTR HONDA
26 ADRIAN MARTIN SPA - TEAM LAGLISSE, HONDA
27 NICCOLO ANTONELLI ITA - GRESINI RACING, HONDA
30 GIULIAN PEDONE SWI - PHONICA RACING, ORAL
31 NIKLAS AJO FIN - TT MOTION EVENTS RACING, KTM
32 ISAAC VIÑALES SPA - ONGETTA-CENTRO SETA, HONDA
39 LUIS SALOM SPA - RW RACING GP KALEX, KTM
42 ALEX RINS SPA - MONLAU COMPETICION, HONDA
44 MIGUEL OLIVEIRA POR - MONLAU COMPETICION, HONDA
51 KENTA FUJII JAP - TECHNOMAG-CIP, HONDA
52 DANNY KENT GBR - RED BULL KTM AJO, KTM
53 JASPER IWEMA HOL - MOTO FGR, FGR HONDA
55 HECTOR FAUBEL SPA - ASPAR TEAM, KALEX KTM
61 ARTHUR SISSIS AUS - RED BULL KTM AJO, KTM
63 ZULFAHMI KHAIRUDDIN MAL - AIRASIA-SIC-AJO, KTM
77 MARCEL SCHROTTER GER - MAHINDRA RACING, MAHINDRA
84 JAKUB KORNFEIL CZE - REDOX-ONGETTA-CENTRO SETA, HONDA
89 ALAN TECHER FRA - TECHNOMAG-CIP, HONDA
94 JONAS FOLGER GER - MZ RACING TEAM, MZ
95 MIROSLAV POPOV CZE - PHONICA RACING, ORAL
96 LOUIS ROSSI FRA - RACING TEAM GERY, HONDA
99 DANNY WEBB GBR - MAHINDRA RACING, MAHINDRA
David P is offline  
(Post Link) post #19 of 582 Old 30-01-12 Thread Starter
Status: BORED
 
David P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ireland
County: Cork
Posts: 85,204
Garage
A sneak peek at the Ducati GP12


The Sepang 3 day test starts tomorrow


Testing for some of the CRT & Moto3 started today in Valencia
David P is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Overnight rain and a damp track delay the start of the first day of the Sepang test.......
Damp track means delayed start to 2012 | MotoGP News | Jan 2012 | Crash.Net
Stu GTV is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Times as at 1600 local time on the first day of testing 1000cc bikes and new Bridgestone tyres......
No Casey Stoner today as he pulled something in his back warming up and is having treatment.....super fit haha...

1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing 2m 1.657s (Lap 17/17)
2. Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory Racing 2m 2.383s (24/25)
3. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda 2m 2.433s (37/38)
4. Hector Barbera ESP Pramac Racing 2m 2.773s (24/25)
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Team 2m 2.824s (17/22)
6. Cal Crutchlow GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2m 3.099s (15/15)
7. Alvaro Bautista ESP San Carlo Honda Gresini 2m 3.153s (21/23)
8. Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamaha Test Rider 2m 3.418s (15/22)
9. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2m 3.448s (12/12)
10. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda 2m 3.668s (28/29)
11. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Team 2m 3.969s (19/19)
12. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing 2m 4.513s (25/26)
13. Franco Battaini ITA Ducati Test Rider 2m 5.292s (8/15)
14. Kousuke Akiyoshi JPN Repsol Honda 2m 7.163s (1/4)
15. Colin Edwards USA Forward Racing (Suter-BMW CRT) 2m 8.240s (12/15)
16. Ivan Silva ESP Avintia Racing (FTR-Kawasaki CRT) 2m 11.267s (12/12)
17. Jordi Torres ESP Avintia Racing (FTR-Kawasaki CRT) 2m 12.816s (13/25)

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RIP
MARCO
20.01.87-23.10.11
LUIS SALOM
07.08.91-03.06.16
NICKY HAYDEN
30.07.81.-22.05.17
DAN KNEEN
26.06.1987-30.05.2018

Last edited by Stu GTV; 31-01-12 at 08:40. Reason: added best lap
Stu GTV is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Times at 1700 local time.....Cal is adapting to the new bike well.......

1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing 2m 1.657s (Lap 19/30)
2. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda 2m 2.003s (44/44)
3. Cal Crutchlow GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2m 2.221s (26/27)
4. Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory Racing 2m 2.234s (28/28)
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Team 2m 2.727s (31/31)
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2m 2.751s (16/20)
7. Hector Barbera ESP Pramac Racing 2m 2.773s (24/35)
8. Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamaha Test Rider 2m 2.829s (29/29)
9. Alvaro Bautista ESP San Carlo Honda Gresini 2m 2.939s (29/36)
10. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda 2m 3.668s (28/38)
11. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing 2m 3.781s (36/36)
12. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Team 2m 3.969s (19/22)
13. Franco Battaini ITA Ducati Test Rider 2m 4.986s (20/26)
14. Kousuke Akiyoshi JPN Repsol Honda 2m 7.163s (1/4)
15. Colin Edwards USA Forward Racing (Suter-BMW CRT) 2m 8.240s (12/18)
16. Ivan Silva ESP Avintia Racing (FTR-Kawasaki CRT) 2m 11.267s (12/12)
17. Jordi Torres ESP Avintia Racing (FTR-Kawasaki CRT) 2m 12.652s (33/33)
Stu GTV is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Lap times at the end of day 1.........looking good for Vale on a brand new bike........

1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing 2m 1.657s (Lap 19/30)
2. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda 2m 2.003s (44/48)
3. Cal Crutchlow GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2m 2.221s (26/32)
4. Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory Racing 2m 2.234s (28/28)
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Team 2m 2.392s (37/43)
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2m 2.751s (16/20)
7. Hector Barbera ESP Pramac Racing 2m 2.773s (24/41)
8. Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamaha Test Rider 2m 2.829s (29/32)
9. Alvaro Bautista ESP San Carlo Honda Gresini 2m 2.869s (44/45)
10. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Team 2m 3.151s (25/33)
11. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda 2m 3.668s (28/44)
12. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing 2m 3.781s (36/45)
13. Franco Battaini ITA Ducati Test Rider 2m 4.986s (20/35)
14. Kousuke Akiyoshi JPN Repsol Honda 2m 7.163s (1/4)
15. Colin Edwards USA Forward Racing (Suter-BMW CRT) 2m 8.240s (12/21)
16. Jordi Torres ESP Avintia Racing (FTR-Kawasaki CRT) 2m 10.671s (38/42)
17. Ivan Silva ESP Avintia Racing (FTR-Kawasaki CRT) 2m 11.267s (12/12)
Stu GTV is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
Another reason for missing the racing are the grid girls........

Last edited by Stu GTV; 02-12-12 at 15:50.
Stu GTV is offline  
Status: Time to respray S23
AO Platinum Member
 
Stu GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wellingborough
County: Northamptonshire
Posts: 12,744
From the sound of this interview I think that Valentino is a very happy chappy again......
Valentino Rossi delighted with new Ducati | Page 1 | MotoGP News | Jan 2012 | Crash.Net

A tweet from Spalders earlier said much the same.....Vale patting the tank every time he got off it......Has Baby #2 finally arrived?
Will definately be watching the hour by hour reports tonight......
Stu GTV is offline  
Reply

Go Back   Alfa Romeo Forum > Misc Lounges > Community Discussions > International Motor Sport

Tags
2012 , moto , moto2 , motogp , season

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome