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Chilling Grand Prix Hockenheim

The best man won (again)
bad luck for Kimi Glad to see he was okay, this could have ended much worse
JPM: sorry for the fans, but I don't think he's a "champion".. makes to much errors out of frustration everytime he drops a few places
Webber: nice overtaking on Trulli
Barichello proved once again that being in the best car still doesn't make you the best driver
man of the race: Button!! to start off as 13th and still bring it home 2nd..great! and the way he hunted down Alonso
Still can't decide between him and Alonso as Schumacher's successor
overall, not to bad a race

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Tedious [email protected] highlighted by some upper midfield overtaking, which I grant you was very entertaining but what what really counts is not knowing who is going to win rather than finish best of the loosers.

Can someone tell me how square head does it and why no one else seems to have picked up on the tactics other than BAR?
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No the best man won the MotoGP and his name is not Schumacher
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No the best man won the MotoGP and his name is not Schumacher


Huh? Does f1 still exist?

Schumacher the best? Naa. Don't thing so Schumacher the fastest? Duh.....he's got the fastest car in the field

Sorry Wim, but yesterday the best man won.....on the kart track. And his name was definitely not Schumacher (although they have the same banana-shaped-head ). Yesterday I gave Amsterdavid some kartinglessons And.....I won my cup back
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The best man won (again)
Ignore them Wim. I'm with you on this one
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Ignore them Wim. I'm with you on this one
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I liked the race a lot. With some nice overtaking and a very good job done by Button.

At this moment Schumi can clinch the world titel in Spa, thanks to the bad race of Rubinho.

Looking forward to the next race. Hungary suits the Renaults very good and this can be the second race of the season Schumi might not win.
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I also liked the race quite alot

Only Kimi's crash was some scary stuff... Could have been much worse...

Congratulations again to Ferari and Shumi

The Battle between ALonso and Button was fantastic... I really like seeing alonso fighting back and getting in front (the first round )... the n the Honda was just too fast and went away

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At this moment Schumi can clinch the world titel in Spa, thanks to the bad race of Rubinho.
That's it explained then! I wondered why he made no attempt to score any points. I thought such team tactics had been stopped?

Surely F1 should be about doing your best?
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not sure about that... I think he pushed alot... and even blew a tyre near the end cost him some positions...
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Actually I can't, 'cos you've got your bl--dy foot on my throat. Gerofff!!
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Actually I can't, 'cos you've got your bl--dy foot on my throat. Gerofff!!
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not sure about that... I think he pushed alot... and even blew a tyre near the end cost him some positions...
It was tough luck for Rubinho who has been improving his performance a lot and has scored the race fastest rounds in 3 out of the last 6 GPs before Germany (In Silverstone he was 3rd but faster even than 2nd Raikkonen). Before Germany he was also the only F1 driver this year that has scored points in all races.
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It was tough luck for Rubinho who has been improving his performance a lot and has scored the race fastest rounds in 3 out of the last 6 GPs before Germany (In Silverstone he was 3rd but faster even than 2nd Raikkonen). Before Germany he was also the only F1 driver this year that has scored points in all races.

Unfortunately, Rubens is too inconsistent. He can be very fast, but regularly fails to impress in the races. It strikes me that he's a bit like Coulthard in the sense that he has a tendency to be too self-analytical. That implicit lack of self confidence shows in the results for both drivers, I reckon. Contrast that with the likes of Alonso who is completely confident in himself despite being a relative newcomer. Now, he is definitely a future world champ. I don't think Rubens or Coulthard are. Maybe they're a bit to bright to be F1 drivers
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Unfortunately, Rubens is too inconsistent. He can be very fast, but regularly fails to impress in the races. It strikes me that he's a bit like Coulthard in the sense that he has a tendency to be too self-analytical. That implicit lack of self confidence shows in the results for both drivers, I reckon. Contrast that with the likes of Alonso who is completely confident in himself despite being a relative newcomer. Now, he is definitely a future world champ. I don't think Rubens or Coulthard are. Maybe they're a bit to bright to be F1 drivers
You have a good point there vish and I generally agree. I want to add though that some of the confidence aspects that you mention are imho due to the fact that he is the stable mate of the 6 times world champion and drives the best car in F1 for the last years. I mean it's tough enough to be compared with M. Schumacher let alone the unfair comments, expressed by many journalists and fans, that his good results are mostly due to the car. I don't think that even Montoya would be as self-confident if he was 2nd driver for Ferrari

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I'm not so sure - I think there are a number of drivers with enough self-confidence and ego to go gunning at Schumacher's heels for the Ferrari no.1 slot.
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slighly OT-I see that it is now official that Mark Webber is going to Williams next year
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I'm not so sure - I think there are a number of drivers with enough self-confidence and ego to go gunning at Schumacher's heels for the Ferrari no.1 slot.
But these drivers would never be offered yet alone accept the role as Schumacher's number two.

The only potential world champions in F1 are, Raikkonen, Alonso and Button. Good drivers the others undoubtedly are, but they lack that extra "bit" that makes a champion.
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You have a good point there vish and I generally agree. I want to add though that some of the confidence aspects that you mention are imho due to the fact that he is the stable mate of the 6 times world champion and drives the best car in F1 for the last years. I mean it's tough enough to be compared with M. Schumacher let alone the unfair comments, expressed by many journalists and fans, that his good results are mostly due to the car. I don't think that even Montoya would be as self-confident if he was 2nd driver for Ferrari

Yup, that's fair comment. It must be difficult to join a team with Schuey already firmly in place there. Ferrari, however, do strike me as being quite equitable as far as the two drivers are concerned. Maybe they can afford to be when they are riding to high. Contrast that with Mclaren where Kimi is teacher's pet and Coulthard is the naughty boy. I reckon that's partly down to Ron Dennis having a chip on his shoulder, though.
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The current Ferrari is built around MS's driving style and this will probably not suit RB.
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