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2 years in a C63

That's gone by fast. Some observations, firstly on costs.

In servicing and maintenance, it has cost me about £1000 in those two years. Maybe up to £1500 if you include the 4 tyres I bought right after getting it.
In the last two years of owning the GTA it cost be £6000. And an average of £3000 a year for the 3 years before that too.
Now the GTA was going through it's midlife crisis, so the chances are that the massive bills were just about to end. But on the other hand I'd been thinking that for the last 2 years.

This car is:
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Sounds better (sorry)
than the GTA. Is it better overall though? I do hanker for the GTA sometimes. Mostly when looking at the AMG. It's a fairly handsome thing, but it's not a patch on the GTA. I also thing the GTA was more fun to drive fast - as least for my current level of skill / experience with the car. The GTA was like a go-kart. I could drive it quickly in perfect confidence and throw it about. The AMG handles excellently, but I don't trust myself. And it's ludicrously quick, so if you're driving fast, it's VERY fast.

So I haven't really used the AMGs capabilities. I can think of two occasions I've had the tail out. Probably by a couple of degrees only!

And on that subject, I think I may be an atypical C63 driver. There are people on their forums who claim tyres only last 3 months or 3000 miles. I've done just over 12,000 since I replaced them, and the rears still have 3mm and are going to be replaced soon. The fronts hardly look worn!

So, would I recommend this car? Absolutely, it is phenomenal. But I still miss my GTA...
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I also thing the GTA was more fun to drive fast - as least for my current level of skill / experience with the car. The GTA was like a go-kart. I could drive it quickly in perfect confidence and throw it about. The AMG handles excellently, but I don't trust myself. And it's ludicrously quick, so if you're driving fast, it's VERY fast.

So I haven't really used the AMGs capabilities. I can think of two occasions I've had the tail out. Probably by a couple of degrees only!
And therein lies the rub with most modern performance cars. The speeds and the limits of grip are just too high to be fun. The risks associated with making a mistake are much higher too as you'll be REALLY travelling fast when you drop it.

I have harboured similar feelings driving my Veloce with "only" 280bhp. It's fast enough to scare you and gets to quite silly speeds quicker than you expect when you go for it. I even wondered (heresy, I know) if stuff like the QF, C63, M3 etc are too quick for the road other than appealing to one's vanity and machismo.



PS - I'd still have a QF if I had the money!
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I happily admit that I didn't buy this car for how fast it goes, but for the noise it makes. The willy waving that I see on the facebook group leaves me cold.

Aside from the risks of dropping it because you're going faster, there's also the extra risk inherent in this car having cost me 3 times as much as I've ever spent on a car before. And to be honest, I don't think I can see myself spending anywhere near as much again. When I think back to having done so, I can't believe I convinced myself! I get cold sweats at the thought of spending as much again!
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There's something I forgot to mention. That £1000 for two years servicing includes me deciding to change all the plugs for one of them despite the low mileage. I expected it to cost me a fortune! Apparently Mercedes do this thing where you can actually get at the service elements on the engine. Mental.

(Mind you, it would have been considerably more if I hadn't found a well thought of Merc indy close by.)
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I can understand what you mean about the sound, and buying it for that reason. One of the best sounds in motoring!

Interesting you mention accessible service items.
Been looking into Subaru BRZs and Toyota GT86s, and the official word is that it's an engine-out job to change the spark plugs. Apparently people on the forums say it can just about be done leaving the engine in but at the expense of bruised and bloody knuckles. Still, probably a better 'expense' than taking it to the main dealers...
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Hard to say. You see them advertised at all sorts of different prices.

But you make a good point - if I was forced to guess, I'd say it's lost a few grand at least - probably about the difference I'm talking about in maintenance costs! And of course, the GTA is probably worth more now too.

So much for my man maths making it seem like a good choice!
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I absolutely do.

The noise it makes on downchanges somewhat makes up for it, mind.
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Bazza, how has the beast been for reliability and durability? All ok?
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Is it this one Bazza?
Always interesting to hear if there’s something that was a bit of a surprise and delight you found after buying it?
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Bazza, how has the beast been for reliability and durability? All ok?
Absolutely faultless.
It possibly has the very slightest aircon leak, as it has had to be re-gassed again two years after the last time. But until it stopped working it's extremely powerful. And a two-yearly regas doesn't seem extreme.

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Always interesting to hear if there’s something that was a bit of a surprise and delight you found after buying it?
Yep, that's the approximate interior.

Interesting question. I have to remember what things I already knew about before I owned it, and what I didn't.

For instance, the seats are amazing, but I think I knew that already.

I'll say that the first time I drove it with the boot open to carry a long load I giggled like a schoolgirl at the exhuast noise that allowed into the car. I've been known to drive it a little way with the boot open a crack for no reason since then.

The powered boot door, which I thought of as a gimmick is often really useful (and not only because it allows me to have it open a crack as above).

The bonnet opens to a ridiculous angle, which is handy.

When you start it up, it blips the throttle itself. Which did once lead to a woman who was walking past at the time letting out a little scream.
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Sounds like you’ve had some fun with it, Bazza 🙂 how long do you think you’ll keep it for?

And so Mercedes bonnets still open like this?

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Certainly stops you from braining yourself on the grill 🙂
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A good question. Hopefully ten years like I did the GTA. That way the ludicrous amount I spent on it will be somewhat justified. It's actually hard to believe that it's been 2 years already, I hardly feel like I know the car compared to the GTA.

And yes, that's exactly how it opens - except the grille isn't attached to the bonnet. It's handy for oil level checks, as the dipstick is right at the back of the bay.
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Yep, agree. That angle of opening makes it a cinch to access anything that’s near the bulkhead (lots of dried leaves in my case!)

We’ll be expecting a similar report when you’re ten years in, Bazza 🙂
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