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I have no irrational dislikes, but I have a perfectly rational dislike of SUVs, because they park across my drive (all of them, and that's a fact) every day.
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Peugeot RCV or the Aldi TT as a friend calls them
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An Audi is just a Skoda with posh seats. Isn't it...
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I used to like Audis enough to buy new ones , until 2007. They became a bit vulgar. The Q7 was the last straw and you started to realise the Chinese market was the most important one they had. Skoda at one point took over the nicely executed look from Audi. Some of their design bosses have moved to Bentley and BMW but I don’t see Audi design bosses being head hunted. But when it comes down to it the stuff close to the surface is the same between the two makes. In fact I remember the realisation that a Skoda taxi I was in had a vent at the back of the centre console and my Audi ,despite being on the same base ,didn’t.
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Peugeot RCV or the Aldi T!T as a friend calls them
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I used to like Audis enough to buy new ones , until 2007. They became a bit vulgar. The Q7 was the last straw and you started to realise the Chinese market was the most important one they had. Skoda at one point took over the nicely executed look from Audi. Some of their design bosses have moved to Bentley and BMW but I don’t see Audi design bosses being head hunted. But when it comes down to it the stuff close to the surface is the same between the two makes. In fact I remember the realisation that a Skoda taxi I was in had a vent at the back of the centre console and my Audi ,despite being on the same base ,didn’t.
I don't mind some Skodas and Seats.

They don't have the bulls**t factor that sees aspirational types paying extra for the badge.

A few years back my father had a skoda Rapid as a courtesy car whilst his Merc was in being fixed after breaking down. It was dull, but very worthy and certainly better inside than the Korean and Japanese "washing machines".
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Range Rover Velar, not a huge fan of any of the current Range Rovers as they're a bit too Cheshire footballers mansion for my liking.
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Range Rover Velar, not a huge fan of any of the current Range Rovers as they're a bit too Cheshire footballers mansion for my liking.


They’re bloody nice though. The centre console is a clear touch screen panel with heated and seat massage. They’re really luxurious and lovely to drive.

My wife has a MK3 SuperCharged 4.2 V8 400hp one which is still really nice and highly specced.
They’re bad ass 4x4’s in top spec...


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An Audi is just a Skoda with posh seats. Isn't it...


No, a Skoda is a lower specced people’s car (VW) for the person on a low income

An Audi is a premium sector of the VW group. For the people on a higher income

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No, a Skoda is a lower specced people’s car (VW) for the person on a low income

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But in many cases they are the same product with a few different body panels and a different interior.

In a few cases the Skoda version has been mechanically superior. (The Skoda Fabia got independent rear suspension where as the VW polo and Audi A1 of the time didn't)
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No, a Skoda is a lower specced people’s car (VW) for the person with sense and money in similar quantity

An Audi is a premium sector of the VW group. For those with higher levels of money soon parted from their hard earned.

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I corrected your typos.

To stay on topic, the cars I dislike are:
Vauxhall Corsa D and E
Many models of Mercedes (mainly saloons and wagons) which have large enough displacement and or turbos to sprint to sixty quicker than they do.
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.... for really irrational and illogical reasons.
Porsche.

Apparently some of the best handling/great performing cars you can get. I could quite happily wrangle a boxster around a roundabout or blat a 911 down a B road, but I just don’t think I could face myself after. I excuse myself by saying they are ‘so variable’, a boxster ranges from a god-awful poverty spec 2.5 to a proper 3.2 (3.4?) with all the trimmings, but that’s no different than any other manufacturer. Their niche thing massively annoys me, the 911R and a thousand other variations designed to be nothing more than a futures option for moneyed a-holes I find tedious. But most of all I think it’s the ‘person’ thing. Back in the ‘80s they were synonymous with wunches of bankers and I don’t really see them as any different now.

...and this from someone who is currently driving a BMW, and everyone knows what prats they are.
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I feel similar about Porsches. Partly because the old air-cooled stuff sounded like it was broken, and they seem to have tried to continue the same rattley engine note even in the newer water cooled stuff.
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I feel similar about Porsches. Partly because the old air-cooled stuff sounded like it was broken, and they seem to have tried to continue the same rattley engine note even in the newer water cooled stuff.
In the early water cooled days they sounded like that because they were actually broken.
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My first memories were of a 356 that visited the people next door being ugly then reading a less than glowing write up on the 911 in Motor magazine. Overpriced , thirsty and not very durable but they stuck with it. I’ve heard from an Audi salesman that the turnover over owners is relatively high as owning a Porsche is on the list of boxes to tick. A friend did exactly that, buying a 1980s 911 then thinking “is that it?”and moving it on.
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They’re bloody nice though. The centre console is a clear touch screen panel with heated and seat massage. They’re really luxurious and lovely to drive.

My wife has a MK3 SuperCharged 4.2 V8 400hp one which is still really nice and highly specced.
They’re bad ass 4x4’s in top spec...


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They're probably much nicer when you're in the drivers seat and I don't doubt for one moment their ability but it's not about logic or reason. No doubt if I won the lottery I'd be a total hypocrite and get one
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I am going to add "most cars with daylight running lights" as they are often badly aligned. Of course Alfas will have them sorted (or the chance to turn them off) because I've not had an issue with one behind me... Seat are worse than Audi in this regard, along with most SUVs and even some of the Beemers/Mercs. It's a growing "trend" and I hate that you can't turn your lights off on some cars (at least I seem to recall that's at least a Scandinavian thing...) Other than that a newer Volvo would be on my future shortlist if an Alfa didn't fit the bill
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I am going to add "most cars with daylight running lights"...
All new car models approved for sale in Europe since Feb 2011 have had to have daytime running lights (DRLs) at the front, and some manufacturers include them at the rear too - even though there's no legal requirement to do so. Some of the front DRLs are indeed very bright LEDs, but of course you can't blame the driver if there's no switch to turn them off!

Generally speaking, I think the manufacturers need to stop trying to out-do each other with ever-brighter LEDs, before we all go completely blind and mad. A car is a great big thing and most people can spot one in daylight, even if it hasn't got blindingly bright lights on.

That said, there is some strong research evidence to show that DRLs reduce the likelihood of accidents - especially collisions involving multiple vehicles.

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All new car models approved for sale in Europe since Feb 2011 have had to have daytime running lights (DRLs) at the front, and some manufacturers include them at the rear too - even though there's no legal requirement to do so. Some of the front DRLs are indeed very bright LEDs, but of course you can't blame the driver if there's no switch to turn them off!

Generally speaking, I think the manufacturers need to stop trying to out-do each other with ever-brighter LEDs, before we all go completely blind and mad. A car is a great big thing and most people can spot one in daylight, even if it hasn't got blindingly bright lights on.

That said, there is some strong research evidence to show that DRLs reduce the likelihood of accidents - especially collisions involving multiple vehicles.
Admittedly the ability to turn on the "auto" dim on the 159 would help in some of these situations. And I wasn't blaming the drivers (well, apart from buying the cars!) One of the issues I have is that DRLs deflect my attention from the unlit pedestrians too easily... I find them more a distraction than an aid.
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All American cars. From the model T to the newest GT40. Except maybe the Tucker.
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All American cars. From the model T to the newest GT40. Except maybe the Tucker.
What about Model Ts built in England?
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What about the AMC Pacer?
That was a gem and it was American.
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Nope. I admire the model T for what it meant to motoring, its mass production and hence bringing of the joys of motoring to us all, but no, nothing automotive from America was ever anything more than technically ancient. Be it pushrods for the valves or leaf springs for the axles, they just carried on making model T's really.
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