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I'm just not bonding with my Giulietta!

After 12 years and 275,000 miles with my faithful 156 SW, I can't seem to get away with my Giulietta, it just isn't doing it for me.

It's a bit like getting married and then deciding you're just not that keen on your new wife but don't know what to do about it.

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What exactly do want it to do to you?
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After 12 years and 275,000 miles with my faithful 156 SW, I can't seem to get away with my Giulietta, it just isn't doing it for me.

It's a bit like getting married and then deciding you're just not that keen on your new wife but I can't put my finger on why!
You need to use it to press the 'Dynamic' button.

Your cheeks will soon fill with fresh blood again.
 
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What exactly do want it to do to you?
Well i'd quite like it to drive me effortlessly, i'm forever having to make tiny inputs on the steering wheel to keep it going in a straight line. I'd quite like to drive it without having to turn the radio up to mask all of the rattles. I'd quite like to play a cd but the one that is in is stuck in. I'd quite like the MPG to be more than 40.1. I'd quite like the heated seats to work better than they do and i'd quite like the driver's armrest to be long enough to be able to actually rest your arm on it. If it didn't have that Alfa badge on the front I would have chopped it in already!!!!
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You need some 'Tiger Seal' bonds anything I'm told
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Well i'd quite like it to drive me effortlessly, i'm forever having to make tiny inputs on the steering wheel to keep it going in a straight line. I'd quite like to drive it without having to turn the radio up to mask all of the rattles. I'd quite like to play a cd but the one that is in is stuck in. I'd quite like the MPG to be more than 40.1. I'd quite like the heated seats to work better than they do and i'd quite like the driver's armrest to be long enough to be able to actually rest your arm on it. If it didn't have that Alfa badge on the front I would have chopped it in already!!!!
Bad times mate. Give it a few more months, it might just be taking a bit of time. Niggles can be sorted under warranty, characteristics of the car you will either learn to accept or you'll stop noticing them, or if they still drive you bonkers then chop it in and draw a line under it. If you really want your SW back to new again, it can be done. We've fully rebuilt a few GTV V6s in the past, as well as a couple of GTAs and our Bournemouth branch even did the same on a 145 Cloverleaf just recently. There's no reason it can't be just as reliable as a new car, if not more so given how simple they are in comparison.

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Well i'd quite like it to drive me effortlessly, i'm forever having to make tiny inputs on the steering wheel to keep it going in a straight line. I'd quite like to drive it without having to turn the radio up to mask all of the rattles. I'd quite like to play a cd but the one that is in is stuck in. I'd quite like the MPG to be more than 40.1. I'd quite like the heated seats to work better than they do and i'd quite like the driver's armrest to be long enough to be able to actually rest your arm on it. If it didn't have that Alfa badge on the front I would have chopped it in already!!!!
Sounds like you bought a Mito . The steering is like that but not on a Giulietta . I've done 33000 miles with mine since new and it's so pleasant to drive and deceptively fast. And it doesn't rattle. Take it back and ask for a proper one.
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I feel sorry for you K, the 156 was a great car and it sounds like you had a good example.

Cue thinks the giulietta is the best thing sliced bread and has no faults at all, I can't help but think it was people like this that have given you the perception that the G would be a huge upgrade over the 156.

Like Pud says, in time you'll probably learn to live with the differences, but I can't see you having 12 years of happy motoring with it
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The Giulietta is not the best thing since sliced bread . If indeed sliced bread is the best bread. For what I need in a car its pleasant to drive and looks and feels right for me . I'm just saying that his example does not sound quite right to me . I've had numerous issues with mine which I would not have tolerated with some cars such as the three Audi A3s I bought new one after the other. I just received the letter from Fiat Credit reminding me of the choice I need to make in five or so months on the Pcp . With the dealer experience I've had I'm not instantly tempted to buy the car at three years .
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sounds like its more the car that you have bought rather than the Giulietta in general, can't say i have had any of those problems with mine . maybe the previous owner didnt really look after it in the way you would have done?
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I had similar feelings with ours. Not at first, but when it started rattling. For a few months I was decidedly cool towards it. Once the dealer had sorted out all the noises the doubts went away, love it now...

Still got the GTA mind, the Giulietta is the GFs car
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I didn't bond with my previous Brera, much like the paint didn't to its metalwork.

Have really bonded with this one though

Give it a bit longer & see how it goes.

PS. Can't get my head around the tyre pressure fix. Going outside of manufacturers spec makes it better.....???
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About the steering, I found this description from
Automotive News Europe
November 17, 2010 06:01 CET
"ZF Lenksysteme GmbH provides the new Alfa Romeo Giulietta's dual-pinion electric power steering. The system comprises two pinions fitted directly onto the steering box rack. One is directly connected to the steering column, enabling precision steering, the other is connected to an electrical actuator in the engine compartment. This design differs from that found on the smaller Alfa MiTo and makes the Giulietta more agile. In addition to the better ride, the dual-pinion design improves safety because the mechanical parts are not on the steering column but are positioned further away from the driver. In the event of a collision, the steering column should impact the driver with reduced force because of its reduced bulk."
It sounds as if one the actuators is not working right. It's never been reported on here before but the Mito-like need to correct the steering sounds like something is not right.
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I've driven quite a few G's and the steering has always impressed. EPAS in the MiTo is fine after an adjustment period too. Ditto the 500.
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On a serious note have you thought about going back to a 156. Perhaps something with more zazz like a GTA? Or if you want something newer then a 4C. Neither of those will get a 40+ mpg mind i'm not sure with SR and the EPAS. Seemed very much like a fix to something that wasn't broken because the car manufacturers were bored
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On a few occasions I have bought cars and not immediately bonded with them.

But I have found that sometimes if you carry on with the car they often grow on you.


My Puma was a good example, I wasn't so sure about it for the first few months of ownership, but after that I really loved it.


Just stick with it and see how the relationship develops.
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Mine goes in a straight line without me correcting it

I also don't really have rattles, had one in the passenger door speaker cover but all sorted now! From being in mine compared to a friends GT or a guy a work that had a 156 the Giulietta is much less 'rattly' and feels more 'solid' and screwed together which is pretty much what all the review said too...but i guess they could all be wrong?

Thing i do agree with is the arm rest, not quite long enough and annoying how it moves forward with the seat, when the Mrs drives ours she has to leave the arm rest up otherwise she cant take the handbrake off!

Dunno about your MPG either, I've done about 17,000miles in mine now in the past 7 months and i don't think I've ever seen it as low as 40 (170bhp JTDm) most the time I get about 47ish, but i do all driving on A roads, have had it up as high as 58 but that was trying hard!


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Sounds like you bought a Mito . The steering is like that but not on a Giulietta . I've done 33000 miles with mine since new and it's so pleasant to drive and deceptively fast. And it doesn't rattle. Take it back and ask for a proper one.
Hah! Thats stupid to me! I just sold my G and kept my MiTo because it just gives me more. Armrest is proper, seats is better and the heating works despite being a cheaper car!
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Hah! Thats stupid to me! I just sold my G and kept my MiTo because it just gives me more. Armrest is proper, seats is better and the heating works despite being a cheaper car!
That's why companies offer a choice!
I went from an Audi A3 Sportback to a 147 and missed the grown up details like a fuel flap with a lock instead of it being on the cap . I don't think its stupid to prefer a car to stay in a line on the motorway without constant correction . The Mito is a cheaper car. Correct. It's based on the GM Corsa / GrandePunto . I'm pleased you like your car!
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I liked the G too, but there were all this small things that I missed campared to the MiTo. I have the GTV as a second car anyway.
Since I don't have kids (yet), 5 doors is not a must.

I have no complains on MiTos steering though.
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I've got it booked back into the dealers on Monday to see if they can sort out this steering 'problem', i'll report back on their findings!
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Update: I took my Giulietta in to get checked over and they game me a similar Giulietta as a loan car and low and behold it drives exactly the same as mine.............so at least it proves that my steering is the same as the others but something I just don't like..........and now i'm stuck with it!!!!
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There must be a way out that isn't too painful financially.

Have you got it on finance?

If not then you should be able to sell it.

If you have maybe taking out a loan to pay off the finance would be an option.

Life's too short to be stuck with something you don't like.
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