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The garage i bought my 159 from rang me today and wanted some more money.

The gave me 1800 part ex for my old C2, i was honsest with them about some of the damage to the body work. When I bought the car they didnt even look at mine let alone drive it.

The called me today to say that there was a problem with the power steering and it would cost 1200 to fix, they have since sold the car to another garage for 1300 meaning a 500 loss of what they paid me for it.

Now apparently the bloke i bought the 159 from has had a diciplinary because of this loss and he called to ask me to pay the 500 differance becuase i didnt tell him about the fault!

The cheek of it, he also kind of threatened not to send off my V5 for the 159.
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If you didn't know about the fault with the power steering I would say your conscience is clear and it's their hard luck.
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You can apply for your own V5, it says on it that it does not prove ownership. So long as you have all the necessary paperwork from the supplying dealer you can tell 'em to bu99er off!
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Bare faced !

Clear case of caveat emptor.

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Tell them to re-arrange the following words into a well know phrase or saying...


Off, ***k

Then report 'em to trading standards.
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I'd tell them to go swivel.
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caveat emptor. tell them to get lost and do their job properly next time
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I had the same situation when I traded in my Pug 306 against a BMW 328 years ago. The air con didn't work and I mentioned that when I traded it in. A week after we had done the deal they called me wanting 600 to cover a new compressor as they had assumed it just needed a re-gas.

I spoke with Citizens Advice Bureau and they said that the garage had no right to the extra payment, but it was up to me if I wanted to pay it, if I felt I had misled them at all. I hadn't misled them, they just assumed incorrectly and I told them where to go.

Oddly (and impressively) though, I still get a Christmas card signed by the boss of the garage every year (this was over 10 years ago now!).

Stand by your guns and kindly refuse.

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He admitted that i didnt have to pay anything because they hadnt done thier job properly, he said he was just appealing to my better nature as he had had a diciplinary because of it.

It will be a lesson to him, why should i fork out for thier mistake in not doing thier job properly.

If i do somthing wrong at work i dont ring the customers and blame them lol
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So did you know there was a fault with the power steering?
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So did you know there was a fault with the power steering?
I had intermittant problems, i had it checked at a garage and they said nothing was wrong, i assumed it was a lose connection or fuse or somthing.
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When I traded in he wifes 159. I was back in the dealer 1 week later to get something done on the new car and the salesman approached and asked if I knew the dash of the 159 was lit up like a Christmas tree. I said Yes, but you never asked and you never looked I retorted.

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Fair enough then - just tell them they can even check with the garage you took it to and they said there was nothing wrong with it.
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You shouldnt have to explain anything. They should check the cars properly regardless if you tell them all the faults of the car has or not. If I ever part ex I wouldnt mention anything and let them do their job.
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The deal was struck, papers signed....End of story. Garage haven't a leg to stand on.
 
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Just stick to your guns and say that you knew of no problems. It is up to them to prove otherwise.

I wouldn't go mentioning that you have had intermittent problems before...
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Is it really going to cost 1200 to fix the power steering on a C2? Have they never heard of getting second hand parts from a breaker and getting one of their technicians to fit it?
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It is an interesting one this. How would one of us feel if we had bought an Alfa privately and within a day or so there was an expensive repair to do. I bet there would be a fair bit of slagging off saying surely the guy who sold it knew the fault was there?
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W1NST, but then is it not up to us as the buyer, to make sure we inspect the car fully and remove all reasonable doubt that there may be something wrong?
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What will you do if the 159 turns out to have a major fault?

And Scabies, same question to you about your wife's new car?
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Whenever I have traded cars in, the Bravo being the last one, they took a 2 minute "inspection" of the paintwork only. They didnt drive it, they didnt even start it.

Now it would cost them to do a full inspection so they dont bother. This saves them money. That is their perogative. Personally I always state if there is an issue.
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It is an interesting one this. How would one of us feel if we had bought an Alfa privately and within a day or so there was an expensive repair to do. I bet there would be a fair bit of slagging off saying surely the guy who sold it knew the fault was there?
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W1NST, but then is it not up to us as the buyer, to make sure we inspect the car fully and remove all reasonable doubt that there may be something wrong?
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What will you do if the 159 turns out to have a major fault?

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Whenever I have traded cars in, the Bravo being the last one, they took a 2 minute "inspection" of the paintwork only. They didnt drive it, they didnt even start it.

Now it would cost them to do a full inspection so they dont bother. This saves them money. That is their perogative. Personally I always state if there is an issue.
Surely the difference here is between what the law requires of a trader and of a private seller or buyer. The trader is required to provide a recompense if a fault appears within, I think, three months. A private seller is not. Hence the need for the dealer to fully inspect and car he is buying or p/x ing.

However, as private sellers, we have a moral, if not legal, responsibility to be honest with the buyer and tell them about any significant known faults.
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Over a certain age a trade-in car will be sent to auction instead of retailing it on their forecourt , I imagine .
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I have bought a few dogs in the past, always managed to sell them on.

You live and learn, i got my mate an AA guy to check the car over, i also managed to get an extended warranty thrown in, the test on how good that is will come if i ever have to invoke it.

Question regarding the wifes old 159, i could not give a toss what was wrong with it, the garage agreed a price for the car if they wish to repair before selling it on, which they may have to do, then that is there problem.

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For now each to their own Ultimately, only the Great Car Salesman in the sky can judge what we did was right or wrong come the day that we ourselves are 'traded in'.

Here endeth the lesson. Bless you my Alfa Brethren.
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