What car instead of my GTV - Alfa Romeo Forum
You are currently unregistered, register for more features.    
General Alfa Discussion Strictly Alfa Romeo talk only!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
(Post Link) post #1 of 38 Old 02-06-08 Thread Starter
Status: -
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 315
What car instead of my GTV

Havent had my GTV for long, put £75 in done 270 miles and the red lights come on, not sure i can afford to run it

Thinking of maybe getting a diesel, thinking golf gt tdi, or bmw 320d, will have around 4k any suggestions
tomcole19 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Status: -
AO Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Nicosia, Cyprus
Posts: 78

Member car:

Alfa 156

Re: What car instead of my GTV

an Alfa GT 1.9 TDI? Or are you looking to go away from Alfas
Firann is offline  
(Post Link) post #3 of 38 Old 02-06-08 Thread Starter
Status: -
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 315
Re: What car instead of my GTV

too expensive, not really i want something sporty

cant get that for 4k though i suppose, guess ill have to swallow the mad fuel costs, and just get on
tomcole19 is offline  
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,072
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Is your car a TS of a V6?
The TS should do 33mpg which isn't a lot worse than a 2.4 Diesel when you take into account the higher cost of fuel..
symon is online now  
Status: -
AO Platinum Member
 
SPPalfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: Newport
Posts: 16,125
Re: What car instead of my GTV

147 JTD would be the obvious choice for 4K - assuming they can be bought for that amount

__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
SPPalfa is offline  
Status: -
AO Member
 
GTV Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: West Midlands
Posts: 953

Member car:

GTV V6

Re: What car instead of my GTV

I have a TS, I put £70 worth of V-Power in which filled the tank, and I did 250 miles on the weekend. The needles now on the halfway mark. Don't know what mpg I'm doing as I've never worked it out, but that doesn't sound bad. I'd suggest that if you have a V6, consider changing it to a TS; if you already have a TS, then find out why it's drinking so much fuel!

ETA: Just read through you old posts and note you have a TS. You really should be getting more than that out of it, unless you drive it like a mad man everywhere! I also recently ran some injector cleaner through the system, so that may also help my better fuel consumption.

Last edited by GTV Rob; 03-06-08 at 08:13.
GTV Rob is offline  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Bristol
Posts: 1,563

Member car:

Alfa GT

Re: What car instead of my GTV

If that's a TS that definitely isn't right.

My V6 has been giving me over 300 miles to a full tank (and I don't hang about!)

Some ideas for saving fuel:

Motorways - Drive at an indicated 70, rather than 80-85, saves a surprising amount of fuel.
Town Driving - use as high a gear as possible (which doesn't require a full depression of the accelerator), smooth up your driving and anticipate traffic flows, try to reduce sudden acceleration where possible (this is the hardest to stop, and I might say almost criminal in an alfa )
V6Alfisti is offline  
Status: Broken again...
AO Platinum Member
 
GhostyDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Right Side O The Pennines
County: West Yorkshire
Posts: 25,672
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcole19 View Post
Havent had my GTV for long, put £75 in done 270 miles and the red lights come on,
Then get your car checked, I put £75 quid in my GTA and didn't get the low fuel light til around 280 miles. First thing would be faulty MAF, get it on an examiner to find out.
GhostyDog is offline  
(Post Link) post #9 of 38 Old 03-06-08 Thread Starter
Status: -
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 315
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Just had a recon engine, so been taking it easy to, i have just been driving it around town, no motorway at all, Ill see what happens with the next tank. thanks for the advice though guys
tomcole19 is offline  
Status: -
AO Platinum Member
 
SPPalfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: Newport
Posts: 16,125
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Maybe you should take it back to the garage that fitted the recon engine and get them to check the car over.

__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
SPPalfa is offline  
paintergirl
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: What car instead of my GTV

My 2 litre Spider does 40 mpg on a run. 32 - 35 normal combined. And I don't run V-power.
 
Status: V6 Inside
AO Silver Member
 
ransoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 4,881
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcole19 View Post
Just had a recon engine, so been taking it easy to, i have just been driving it around town, no motorway at all, Ill see what happens with the next tank. thanks for the advice though guys
is it a v6 or t-spark?
ransoman is online now  
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,072
Re: What car instead of my GTV

If the car seems to be running faily well I would guess at a thermostat or lambda sensor issue. The thermostat is eay to check, if it has failed it will run cold. Normally at around 60ºC, and rise in traffic.
It should run at somewhere between 80 and 90ºC all of the time maybe rising a bit more until the fun come in.

The lambda sensor may need an exhaust emission check which any MOT station can do for a couple of quid. The car might otherwise run OK.

Lambda's are only supposed to operate at peak efficiency for around 40,000 miles apparently.

Giulietta 2.0JTDm (170)
symon is online now  
Status: So good I did it thrice
AO Silver Member
 
PC7671's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: A4074
Posts: 2,082
Garage
Re: What car instead of my GTV

If your doing lots of short 1 or 2 mile journeys it may explain it.
PC7671 is offline  
(Post Link) post #15 of 38 Old 03-06-08 Thread Starter
Status: -
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 315
Re: What car instead of my GTV

I live it wales too and its really hilly

On the temperature; It sits between 75 and 90 most of the time, but i have noticed that when in traffic it does go slighly over 90 when the fan kicks in it goes back down to 90?
tomcole19 is offline  
Status: -
AO Platinum Member
 
SPPalfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: Newport
Posts: 16,125
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Newport is the flatlands Tom - you need to get it checked out before you make any rash decisions.

Try waterfall garage in bridgend - quite a few people in here use them and they come with decent recomendations.

__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
SPPalfa is offline  
paintergirl
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcole19 View Post
I live it wales too and its really hilly

On the temperature; It sits between 75 and 90 most of the time, but i have noticed that when in traffic it does go slighly over 90 when the fan kicks in it goes back down to 90?
Mine too. It worried me at first, but it's just how it is.
 
Status: Farewell and thanks GTV.
AO Member
 
Junior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: London
Posts: 691
Re: What car instead of my GTV

In purely town driving I am getting between 320 - 350 miles on a full tank, so there is something amiss with your car. As the others have said, have it checked over before doing something rash like buying a diesel Golf.
Junior is offline  
Status: -
AO Member
 
GTV Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: West Midlands
Posts: 953

Member car:

GTV V6

Re: What car instead of my GTV

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcole19 View Post
I live it wales too and its really hilly

On the temperature; It sits between 75 and 90 most of the time, but i have noticed that when in traffic it does go slighly over 90 when the fan kicks in it goes back down to 90?
It will rise a bit in traffic, but mine never goes OVER 90. When I first bought mine, I was having similar concerns over the consumption, I was really wandering what I had let myself in for. Turned out I needed a new thermostat, and the difference in consumption was HUGE
GTV Rob is offline  
(Post Link) post #20 of 38 Old 03-06-08 Thread Starter
Status: -
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 315
Re: What car instead of my GTV

how much is a new thermostat
tomcole19 is offline  
(Post Link) post #21 of 38 Old 03-06-08 Thread Starter
Status: -
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 315
Re: What car instead of my GTV

lc motors say £127 + vat fitted, ill prob fit it myself.

But.... Ive been done a few miles today and its up to 300 miles now and thats 95% in town driving. If the car goes slighly above 90 before the fan cuts in is that a fault with the thermostat?
tomcole19 is offline  
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,072
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Its a fairly easy job to change. It shouldn't take any longer than an hour or so. Just make sure you have some fresh Anti freeze, and a selection of jubilee clips to replace the crappy OE Alfa ones.
symon is online now  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Alfie GTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Wiltshire
Posts: 2,275

Member car:

2002 GTV T.Spark

Re: What car instead of my GTV

The engine may still be a bit tight.Give it 2-3k and it should be fine.
Alfie GTV is offline  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Ben_NZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 1,468
Re: What car instead of my GTV

Quote:
If the car goes slighly above 90 before the fan cuts in is that a fault with the thermostat?
I expect that could just be tolerances - your fan switch might turn the fan on at a slightly different temperature, or your temperature gauge might read a little higher, or your radiator might be a little less effective etc.
Failed thermostats normally result only in the engine over-cooling whenever the car is cruising at speed, because the thermostat won't prevent coolant constantly running through the radiator and cooling your motor too much.
If you sit in traffic until the engine warms to 80~90, then get going faster and it cools down a lot (not just a few degrees), your thermostat is probably faulty.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 73GTVJim
"PS and you agree with Ben so you must be wrong "
Ben_NZ is offline  
robk147
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: What car instead of my GTV

My car has the same engine (2.0 TS) and I get about 280 miles from a full tank (less if it's all town driving). It has always been like this since I've owned it and I don't drive like a madman either (well most of the time!).
 
Reply

Go Back   Alfa Romeo Forum > Misc Lounges > Community Discussions > General Alfa Discussion

Tags
car , gtv

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome