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I gather the difference between a good suburb and a bad one in South Africa is greater than here?

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...y-and-security
Ya, very much a two societies in one country setup, very different to England.
My uncle stays in Southampton, so I have a good idea of how it is there.

So yes, I only go to the good suburbs in SA (95% of my time).
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I've owned quite a few cabriolets over the years (mostly Pug 306s though) and I reckon it's def better to leave it with the roof up and windows locked - the number of times I had people chucking coffee cups, crisp packets, etc into the car with the roof down was unbelievable when I parked it around London suburban shopping centres (they don't look that much like skips, you ers!), and as I live out in the sticks they used to get constantly bird bombed with the roof down (far less with the roof up for some reason) and I even found a stray cat asleep in my car once! (took ages to get the fur off the seat and I had to cover the upholstery with flea spray because people kept getting bites after sitting in the car)
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Well.....all the replies have certainly been a bit of an eye-opener......thank you all, for your opinions

Evidently, I am still naive - just older (but not wiser). Maybe Iíve lived too long buried in the sticks, but I really hadnít considered the possibility of some mouth-breather chucking rubbish/fag ends/spittle etc into the car. My primary concern was actually stealing the whole car - or parts thereof.

Iím often told I need to get out more and socialise with beings other than cows.

If thatís what is out there, then thanks........but Iíll pass!


Maybe, the GTV is a better bet............
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If you leave your roof down it doesnít matter if you are an optimist or a pessimist, what is going to happen will happen. Likewise leaving the hood up. Some low life could take a knife to it for no reason or to steal something or whatever. The only difference is being an optimist, life is less stressful.
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If you leave your roof down it doesnít matter if you are an optimist or a pessimist, what is going to happen will happen. Likewise leaving the hood up. Some low life could take a knife to it for no reason or to steal something or whatever. The only difference is being an optimist, life is less stressful.
True enough, and just as easily somebody could put a brick through the window of a saloon if they wanted to steal it, the radio or whatever. But Alfas have one major advantage in the car theft dept - they don't even figure in the top 15 manufacturers for car theft, let alone the top 10 most oft-stolen cars (they're all BMW or Mercedes). Which might prove either Alfas are too rare to show up statistically, or that no right-minded villain would touch an Alfa because they'd expect it to break down

One thing I do know for sure though, life is slightly less irritating if people (well, Londoners) don't use your car as a bin
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If it's somewhere for a short time and where you can see it, you're almost entirely obliged to keep the roof down.

I once saw a restored MG Midget outside a hair-dresser's. It was white with the chrome bumpers and it had dark red seats with walnut dash. The owner had left it roof down so I got a waft of leather and engine oil as I stuck my head "into" it to have a look. It was properly handsome.

On the other hand.. I once stuck my head into an MGF (or it may have been an MX5) that had a perimetric alarm, which set the alarm off and made me poop myself. Don't set the alarm!


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Up until April of this year I had a fantastic automatic roof module fitted to my 99 SL500 which would close the fabric roof at up to 15mph and would open and close it with one touch of the remote key button. I had a lot of fun with this for over 4 years until my battery died at train station and the breakdown guy had to jump start me, frying the roof ECU and the roof module On putting a new ECU in, it wouldn't work until I removed the roof module. Once bitten...., I am having to use the normal way of keeping my finger on the roof button which is tedious.

As to up or down, in March my hardtop comes off signalling the start of warmer weather. It grudgingly goes back on in October and takes 2 people to do this. As its such a faff I take full advantage of the dry days and the roof stays down. Never had garbage thrown in it, had bird poop but as someone else noted its a lot easier to wipe a leather seat than a cloth roof. If someone wants it i would rather they not knife the £1,500 fabric roof and just drive along with the alarm blaring and lights flashing, same goes if they stick their hand into the cockpit. If i find myself in a rougher than used to neighbourhood i don't park I drive on. If parked up its roof down and windows up.

Same goes for my wife's mini cooper S, which has a fantastic alarm and a cloth hood. BTW leaving the hood up in hot sunshine makes getting back into the car a very unpleasant experience, especially in shorts. The worst thing you see in my mind is people driving around on a beautful day with the roof UP
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Up until April of this year I had a fantastic automatic roof module fitted to my 99 SL500 which would close the fabric roof at up to 15mph and would open and close it with one touch of the remote key button. I had a lot of fun with this for over 4 years until my battery died at train station and the breakdown guy had to jump start me, frying the roof ECU and the roof module On putting a new ECU in, it wouldn't work until I removed the roof module. Once bitten...., I am having to use the normal way of keeping my finger on the roof button which is tedious.

As to up or down, in March my hardtop comes off signalling the start of warmer weather. It grudgingly goes back on in October and takes 2 people to do this. As its such a faff I take full advantage of the dry days and the roof stays down. Never had garbage thrown in it, had bird poop but as someone else noted its a lot easier to wipe a leather seat than a cloth roof. If someone wants it i would rather they not knife the £1,500 fabric roof and just drive along with the alarm blaring and lights flashing, same goes if they stick their hand into the cockpit. If i find myself in a rougher than used to neighbourhood i don't park I drive on. If parked up its roof down and windows up.

Same goes for my wife's mini cooper S, which has a fantastic alarm and a cloth hood. BTW leaving the hood up in hot sunshine makes getting back into the car a very unpleasant experience, especially in shorts. The worst thing you see in my mind is people driving around on a beautful day with the roof UP
Pretty much the same procedure I used to do with my Pugs, but thanks to the auto roof being so quick to fold and unfold (around 15 seconds plus securing 2 clips) it wasn't worth the risk of leaving it down, unless the infamously unreliable electronics failed. That turned it into a 5-10 minute faff to raise / lower the roof, which of course meant it spent most of the time with the hood down in the summer, which is when Londoners (note I said Londoners, not people ) took advantage of the extra-large wheelie bin...

I used to love sticking the insulated hardtop on in the winter though - it turned it into a spectacularly good-looking coupe, completely got rid of the scuttle shake and meant it could completely de-ice in under 5 mins. Putting it on was a dreadful faff though.

Re-soft top up in the sun - I totally agree, deeply unpleasant 'til you've got that soft top down again and have the wind cooling you down. One of my cabrios had air conditioning, which was an option I never understood - why the heck would you need air conditioning if you've got no roof?!
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Pretty much the same procedure I used to do with my Pugs, but thanks to the auto roof being so quick to fold and unfold (around 15 seconds plus securing 2 clips) it wasn't worth the risk of leaving it down, unless the infamously unreliable electronics failed. That turned it into a 5-10 minute faff to raise / lower the roof, which of course meant it spent most of the time with the hood down in the summer, which is when Londoners (note I said Londoners, not people ) took advantage of the extra-large wheelie bin...

One of my cabrios had air conditioning, which was an option I never understood - why the heck would you need air conditioning if you've got no roof?!
Abarth/Fiat 124 Spider seems to have a great roof - around 3 seconds to open or close, and all manual, no electrics to worry about.

Aircon is great in winter for demisting the windscreen & side windows.
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Bird poo wiped off back seats tonight just before I put the car in the garage for the night!!
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Abarth/Fiat 124 Spider seems to have a great roof - around 3 seconds to open or close, and all manual, no electrics to worry about.

Aircon is great in winter for demisting the windscreen & side windows.
Mmm, spider Old type or new type?

True, aircon is usually more use in the UK winter than the summer, but ironically nobody ever uses it then. And of course the aircon shuts down below -3 degrees anyway so no use on particularly crisp mornings.

Not necessary on the Pug 306 cabrio with the hardtop even then though - the cabin is quite small and the heater is very powerful so it has no problem clearing even a thick coating of ice off the windows in a few minutes, let alone dealing with a little mist, and I suspect most other cabrios with a decent winter hardtop would be much the same. And judging by the number of cabrios you see in March-onwards compared with Oct-on, most of those which can't be fitted with a hardtop spend the winter tucked away in the garage anyway (which is just as well because cold weather is the mortal enemy of a ragtop's pvc rear window).
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Similar to the above, I fitted a module to Mrs Bazza's roof which allows us to remotely open and close it.
And it's still working many years later!

Every now and again, it throws a tizzy about whether the boot shield is in place and therefore whether it's allowed to open. But I don't associate that with the work I did of course...
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Mmm, spider Old type or new type?

True, aircon is usually more use in the UK winter than the summer, but ironically nobody ever uses it then. And of course the aircon shuts down below -3 degrees anyway so no use on particularly crisp mornings.

Not necessary on the Pug 306 cabrio with the hardtop even then though - the cabin is quite small and the heater is very powerful so it has no problem clearing even a thick coating of ice off the windows in a few minutes, let alone dealing with a little mist, and I suspect most other cabrios with a decent winter hardtop would be much the same. And judging by the number of cabrios you see in March-onwards compared with Oct-on, most of those which can't be fitted with a hardtop spend the winter tucked away in the garage anyway (which is just as well because cold weather is the mortal enemy of a ragtop's pvc rear window).
The current 124, but I guess the original will be every bit as quick and simple.
My own car is an old ('08) Alfa Spider, sadly with a hopeless roof.

Roof up, I use the 'auto' setting on the climate control with mine for most journeys over about 10 minutes, so the aircon is pretty much always on. It works brilliantly.
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