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Wave Alfa Romeo Tonale: New Small SUV Launch at Geneva

Launch in Geneva on Tuesday 5th March.

https://www.autoblog.gr/2019/03/04/a...rWhupU6HdXlLHI
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Looks like a load of pictures of the arse end of a Jeep
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No pics of the Tonale yet, just the script of the name in the Alfa booth.
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It looks like that in A.R. new name choice is going to "mountains" .
It sounds very bad in Italian language. Maybe better than "Alfa Romeo Rolle", or "Alfa Romeo Falzarego", "Alfa Romeo Consuma"...
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It looks like that in A.R. new name choice is going to "mountains" ...
Not a bad idea for the SUV/CUV range, even if the majority will never go off road apart from parking on footpaths.
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Not a bad idea for the SUV/CUV range, even if the majority will never go off road apart from parking on footpaths.
I still have to see a SUV out of tarmac
I've called my parrot "Stelvio", I don't want to call his future feathered brother "Tonale", LOL!
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A rebadged Jeep. Oh dear, another Arna. The end is nigh. Again.
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Not a bad idea for the SUV/CUV range, even if the majority will never go off road apart from parking on footpaths.
I donít think Iíve ever seen a sports car doing sports...
I am able to drive my SUV over traffic calming measures and remain calmer than I did in my old 147!
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A rebadged Jeep. Oh dear, another Arna. The end is nigh. Again.
That Jeep is a Jeep.
C-Suv is not exposed at the moment.
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I donít think Iíve ever seen a sports car doing sports...
I am able to drive my SUV over traffic calming measures and remain calmer than I did in my old 147!
Oh no, I use my GT for reconnaissance in rallies, even if it's not for that use
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Looks like a Giulietta on stilts to me.

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That Jeep is a Jeep.
C-Suv is not exposed at the moment.
My apologies, didn't translate/read the text. However, I'm going to be a pessimist and say its going to be a rebadged jeep, or worse, Fiat 500 XL, or whatever they call that monster thing. I would love to be wrong. I wonder when Sergio will start spinning.
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Thatís a Stelvio.
Itís not new. Iíve got one parked outside.
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My apologies, didn't translate/read the text. However, I'm going to be a pessimist and say its going to be a rebadged jeep, or worse, Fiat 500 XL, or whatever they call that monster thing. I would love to be wrong. I wonder when Sergio will start spinning.
I see FCA becoming too lazy and I'm almost sure that Tonale will be something as we say in Italy: "Nť carne, nť pesce" ("not meat, not fish", something in the middle that you can't classify... in negative).
The budget to project a brand new car with a total new chassis is high and it's cheaper taking a Jeep chassis.
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The Giulietta was big progress from a Bravo. Sometimes the differentiation is just as good as trying to make a whole new car. And that rarely happens. The 500L is a Renegade. An Alfa Jeep can be good especially if itís got aluminium etc like Giorgio has adopted.
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The budget to project a brand new car with a total new chassis is high and it's cheaper taking a Jeep chassis.
There is though, that thing, called the Giorgio platform, and it just happens to be fully developed and praised for being the best chassis in the industry at the moment (exlcuding Porsche, Ferrari,...)
And on top of that it is modular, so it can be shortened or lengthened. It also costs billions to develop, so it would be anything but stupid not to use it on future Alfa Romeos. It would also allow for the new compact SUV and new Giulietta to (let me put is simply) destroy the competition in drivign dynamics in this class.
But no, they rather go down the old route - reworking flabby front wheel drive subpar fiat platforms. Not that every review out there praised Alfa for finally stop doing just that and developing a proper game-changing benchmark of a platform.

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The Giulietta was big progress from a Bravo. Sometimes the differentiation is just as good as trying to make a whole new car. And that rarely happens. The 500L is a Renegade. An Alfa Jeep can be good especially if itís got aluminium etc like Giorgio has adopted.
Alfa Jeep can only be good, indeed. Just like Giulietta was good at best. But it will never be absolutely brilliant drive like Giulia and Stelvio are.
I would call this decision a huge relaps to old habits and wrong decisions. And just after 3 years after the introduction of the best decision FCA every made with Alfa.
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My Stelvio is around twice the price of a Giulietta but making it a bit smaller itíd only be a little bit cheaper to produce in material terms. It would be a great car but would have to be priced much lower than a Stelvio because itís in a smaller class. Or you could restyle a Compass. Itís already got the body side section of a 147 on the doors!
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Agreed. Giorgio is a superb platform, but it is too expensive for this application, and certainly couldn't have its aluminium suspension components which play a huge part in its brilliant dynamics. I suppose Alfa are reacting to what the market is telling them, but a half baked Alfa is not going to serve the brands ambitions. This they surely know from the past.
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Huge front overhang - flabby 500X/Renegade fwd chassis it is then. Alfa go home, you're drunk.

P.S. I forgive them just a little bit if they completely rework front and rear suspension layout.
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Could this be the forerunner of the next Giulietta
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Huge front overhang - flabby 500X/Renegade fwd chassis it is then. Alfa go home, you're drunk.

P.S. I forgive them just a little bit if they completely rework front and rear suspension layout.
There is nothing wrong with fwd when done right. All the best driving hot hatches in the world at the moment are fwd or awd. Fwd leaves more space too which is what people want in a small crossover. It just has to be done well. Rwd cars tend to be very expensive which isn't great if you are trying to expand the brand to a younger audience.
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