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71K on an 04 156. Any tips??

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Got my eye on an 04 156 1.6TS, it's a lovely looking beast with FSH, however, it has 71K on the clock...... It's very well priced with warranty available but am a bit concerned at the mileage in only 4 years. Should I avoid like the plague or are there just a few fundamental tips I should look out for before a test drive?

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Re: 71K on an 04 156. Any tips??

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I went through the same process a month ago when I bought my 156. There are plenty more experienced people on here to advise (and its all useful) - but the general gist is to make sure the FSH is complete, and that the belts have been changed at the right time. On your car they should have been done twice now really - once at 35k-ish and right about now, if they haven't been done already.

I also bought an 04 156 - although it has only 34k miles - and the belts had been changed by the supplying main dealer at 29k as part of it's 3 year service.

The only real unknown you'll have is the same as anyone else who buys a second hand one - and that is you'll have to trust that previous owner(s) have kept the oil level up between services because if it's been low (and they do use oil) then the engine will have been weakened..... but there's no way to know if that happened unfortunately.

if it looks like a well maintained car, with the FSH showing the correct durations and the bekts changed in time then no reason to believe that 71k will be a problem PROVIDED it's at the right price (5k ish at a dealer?) and provided you know that if you keep it til over 100k miles then you'll not see it fetch much money after that when you come to change it.

Once you buy it though - you'll not be disappointed.
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71K in 4 years is no way a bad thing. It means that the car will have done mostly motorway miles and has had fewer cold starts.

I would make the usual checks such as when the cambelt was last changed, and at 71k check there are no nasty clonks from the suspension. However a 71k motorway car is likley to have suspension in better shape than a car used mostly around town with all the speed humps that are around today.
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I bought my '04 156 with 72k miles on the clock, all I would recommend is make sure the cam belt and aux belt are changed and make sure the brakes are OK. Also have the suspension seen to, mine has done 80k miles now and needs the suspension looked at.

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Re: 71K on an 04 156. Any tips??

Cheers FredDibnah My current Sportwagon is on an 01 plate and has only done 36K so it seems like quite a jump in usage. I will check out the 04 beast today as it does have FSH and only one pervious owner. It is very handily priced so I gotta give it a go. Thanks for the advice will make sure I can tick all the boxes before any deal.
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Thanks Symonh I believe its a former company car so all the servicing was carried out at the right intervals. I just hope am not trying to buy the price rather than the car.........
Appreciate your input
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Many thanks Tony, seems like the cambelt is a must to check out? The car looks a beauty and its only £4.2K which is good value The cynic in me says is it too good value????............
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Many thanks Tony, seems like the cambelt is a must to check out? The car looks a beauty and its only 4.2K which is good value The cynic in me says is it too good value????............
On an 1.6JTS Facelift that is good value. Mine was 6.5k, but thats because its the 1.9JTD model. You have got yourself a good car there, as long as you look after her she will pay you back with many miles of safe and fun driving.

Cam-belts on most 156's need to be changed every 72k miles or 4 years. I forget the exact numbers, it does change depending on the engine, Pud knows the numbers, but, I would get it changed just as a matter of course
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Re: 71K on an 04 156. Any tips??

That is a good price,and if the service history is OK I think you're on to a good deal!The '04 and later cars seem to be very well built,and I have had no problems with mine,although its only done 35K.Good luck and happy motoring
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Re: 71K on an 04 156. Any tips??

Hi Alfaman, thanks for your input. Went to see this 156 today, is in fine fettle and looks every inch worth the money Is lower spec than my current sportwagon (Veloce) so not as drop dead gorgeous but still a fine machine. Have booked a test drive for tomorrow evening so we will see........

Excellent value for money and without doubt one of the best examples I have seen at this price over last few weeks of intensive searching.

Am I really sad cos I can't face the prospect of 'losing' my old girl...................(that's not my wife by the way)
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On an 1.6JTS Facelift that is good value. Mine was 6.5k, but thats because its the 1.9JTD model. You have got yourself a good car there, as long as you look after her she will pay you back with many miles of safe and fun driving.
Its a TS (Twin Spark) not a JTS (Jet Thrust Stoichiometric). Only JTS engine was a 2.0, that went in the 156 (replaced the 2.0 TS), also went in the final incarnation of the GTV, and of course the GT. 2.0 JTS was binned for the new range 159/Brera/Spider, there is now a 1.9 JTS & 2.2 JTS

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Cam-belts on most 156's need to be changed every 72k miles or 4 years. I forget the exact numbers, it does change depending on the engine, Pud knows the numbers, but, I would get it changed just as a matter of course
Every 3 years or 36K on a 4 cylinder petrol. This is VERY important, as the engine is renowned for breaking belts if they are not changed (along with tensioner and pulley) at these intervals.

4.2K isn't a bad price. I assume its the facelift front end?

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Re: 71K on an 04 156. Any tips??

Hi Pud

Yes its a face lift model, 1.6 TS. Asked the garage about cam belt history and he assured me that if the FSH (due with them Mon) did not confirm a recent cambelt change then they would replace it as part of their pre-sale service.
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Make sure they change the tensioner too.

And make sure it really IS done and they don't just say it was done. Don't trust them.. ask for the old parts, just so you can be sure. Cam-belt and tensioner failure is the biggest (virtually the only) threat to the T/S engine, if you keep the oil topped up.

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Cambelt and oil level - does it rattle on a cold start (variator)

Budget for £120.00 for a MAF, it usually improves performance.
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Thanks Symonh I believe its a former company car so all the servicing was carried out at the right intervals. I just hope am not trying to buy the price rather than the car.........
Appreciate your input
All I can say is I hope the company the car came from treated the car better than my company treats its cars.

No one ever checks the oil, they don't get cleaned etc...
The only thing is they do get repaired correctly when the do break, but that is quite often.

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My first Alfa was an '02 156 1.6TS and it was a brilliant car.The handling and roadholding were much better than my current 2.0JTS,which I put down to the lighter engine over the front wheels,and perhaps the slightly narrower tyres.They are also surprisingly quick for only 1600cc.
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Hi Alfaman, thanks for your input. Went to see this 156 today, is in fine fettle and looks every inch worth the money Is lower spec than my current sportwagon (Veloce) so not as drop dead gorgeous but still a fine machine. Have booked a test drive for tomorrow evening so we will see........
Just curious to know what's wrong with your current machine? Sounds as if it's better than the new one, personally I would find the 1.6 engine a bit small myself.
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