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Help!! 147 or GTV

I've only had my 147 since October and now I'm wondering if I should have bought a GTV instead.

Have looked into the idea of a GTV and as value for money goes can anyone give me some advise on the running costs are compared to a 147 (eg. servicing, things that can go wrong)?

If I sell the 147 and go through with buying a GTV (phase 2 hopefully), only got a max budget of 2000 I want to spend, sorry all at AO, not being stingy I promise, I want to keep some money back for running costs.

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I did exactly that. Bought a 2.0 147, wished I'd gone for a GTV so sold it, bought a 2.0 GTV, sold that due to lack of space and bought a 147 again....but now I am going to sell the 147 and buy a 3.0 V6 GTV...complicated I know but I've had made enough money on the cars to be able to afford my ultimate dream of a V6

You'll miss the practical side of the 147 but it'll be made up the the exclusive sporty feel of the GTV. Can't imagine fuel wise it'll be that much more...servicing is pretty similar but I found my 147's quite a bit more reliable than the GTV so keep a few quid aside for the little niggles

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The GTV is amazing to drive and still rare on the UK roads. Get one with full service history which has had its belts and variator done at 36k and 72K. Check suspension bushes. Have an amazing time!

Don't think about carrying any big loads though, but you already knew that!
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Re: Help!! 147 or GTV

Get both - I can recommend it.

If you get a GTV where the rear suspension has been powerflexed then the running cost are similar.

HOWEVER GTVs eat tyres if you drive with a bit a spirit (and how can you resist?) - about 8 -10k miles front and 12k rears. I have found this with all of the makes I have used - Dunlop, Pirelli and Bridgestone. Don't get me wrong they wear perfectly evenly - just rather quickly.

The 147 will go at least 20k on the fronts and about 30k on the rear.

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Re: Help!! 147 or GTV

Only concern I'd have is how good a GTV you'd get for £2k?
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Only concern I'd have is how good a GTV you'd get for 2k?
It is a good point jamieboy, might have to go up a bit, on the other hand I might get lucky. Haven't made up my mind yet about this, Very tempted by having a GTV though, not really bothered about practicality and boot space, just as well!
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It'll most likely be a very high mileage phase 2 or a phase 1 you'll have to get. Have fun searching
 
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Very tempted by having a GTV though, not really bothered about practicality and boot space, just as well!
Definitely tempting - they're great cars, and I certainly don't mean to turn you away from one. I just worry that a cheap one might turn out to be a money pit, and you'd end up hating your time as a GTV owner.
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Re: Help!! 147 or GTV

The way I see it: If you don't need the space/practicality, go for the GTV, as in a few years time you may not have the choice but to go for a practical car. That's how I justified my GTV as I was also considering a 2.0 145.
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The girlfriend doesn't want to see the 147 go, nearly had a fallout over this all ready! Think the budget is looking likely to have to go up, think I'd rather spend the extra making sure the car isn't going to cost more in repairs.

I've seen a GTV going privately, but I'm not convinced about this one as its been a repair job.

Alfa Romeo GTV 2.0 16v TS Lusso, Grey, 2000, Low Miles on eBay, also, Alfa Romeo, Cars, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 07-Feb-08 22:00:00 GMT)

Think I might need to go for a test drive in one so I can finally make up my mind.
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Re: Help!! 147 or GTV

I got both and selling both, best car.....for GTV, simply its the V6 which might make a difference i feel the 147 is a bit normal compared to the gtv, but running cost are a lot higher but really should expect that its a sports car at the end of the day......one concern i would say is if you that worried about running cost and you only have 2k, the question is whether you should get one at all?????? i may be wrong please do not take a offence
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Not that worried about running cost to be honest, I was looking at the 2.0L Lusso GTV, wouldn't cost much more than running the 147, the reason behind looking for a phase 2 is that it has the fly by wire which the phase 1 doesn't and don't make anymore.

Trying to keep something back for running cost is due to not working at the moment and the relocation hasn't done my looking for work here in cornwall any favours, don't worry I understand your reasons for bringing it up.
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Ok no worries your about 10 mins!!! from me am in Redruth! treat yourself buy mine blow the budget lol lol
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Don't think I'm in any fit state to be driving after last night, the sake came out, felt like a good idea at the time!
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Anyone that own's a GTV either (2.0 or V6) has something special IMO.They look sound and drive fantastic.Also quite a rare sight on the road.If thinking about buying one spend the money and get a well maintained one,as they can be a money pit.Still one of the best looking cars on the road today.Last week two woman walked past the drive,one said to the other "what a beautifull looking car" That alone says it all.
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Re: Help!! 147 or GTV

Anyone looking for a 147 03 Plate 1.6 TS Turismo? Could be selling mine! Really don't know if I should change the car, decisions decisions decisions!!!
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And a few years ago I thought a Spider against my 147. I still have the 147.
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Have you got your heatshield yet Throttleman? Still waiting for mine!
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Re: Help!! 147 or GTV

Having one of each, I'd say you're simply not going to know until you've owned both.

They are very different generations and heritage, and it shows.

Personally, I prefer the GTV as it's a more involving drive. Especially in relatively empty rural roads. But on long motorway runs or congested computing roads, that quality becomes wearing quite quickly and the 147 becomes the better option.

Fuel costs aside (the 147 is diesel), I find the running costs similar because the GTV tends to be more reliable.

Dunno who's down your way, but I would invest in a check over by a specialist before purchase. As has been mentioned, they can be a money pit, and an experienced eye should help you step over it.

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It is a very good point about getting a bad one and it turning into a money pit, since buying the 147 and learning a lot more about the car from here and being an Alfa owner I know the sort of stuff to look out for, but a specialist would give more of a peice of mind before finding out the hard way.

I was driving behind an 05 GTV going through Truro this morning and pointed it out to the girlfriend, and I got the usual logical Q & A session of why would I want to buy a bigger car that would cost more money to run and especially since parking is really bad around here to have a longer car wouldn't make sense! Logic doesn't come into my thinking on this one!
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i have owned a 99 2l gtv lusso for about 2 years now and everytime i go to start it i think whats going to fail today It has been nothing but hassle Wanted an alfa forever and now i dont want to see another one ever Had tons of cars over the years and this is the worst by far
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As has been said by people before - get one maintained by an enthusiast on here or sportsalfa.com - Make sure you check the pitfalls and make sure they are addressed beforehand. I spent a good year doing so and haven't had a prob since in the last two years ownership but it did cost a few bob in the first year.

GTV is far more precise than the 147 that my girlfriend has driving wise. I could drive it all day and still feel fresh at the other end by comparison.

Your choice I guess but have a drive of a few before plumping for one.
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The thing thats annoying me is all the hills around here in cornwall, and the car doesn't pull very well up them unless its dropped down a gear to build up revs, the accelleration is fine if over 3,500, its either get a lighter and better BHP car or the 147 is getting a remap to help with lower revs and fuel economy.

Anyone else is cornwall have this problem with a 1.6?
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The GTV is the way to go
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Prefer the gtv just because it looks much more of a sportier car - never driven one though so cant comment on how it actually drives.

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