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alternatives to selina oil?

any other alternatives suggested as i cannot buy selina locally?
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shell helix 10-40.... Seems ok to me.
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Re: alternatives to selina oil?

Anything really as long as it's the correct spec and you do the filter at the same time.
My local Alfa specialist swears by Agip. Others use Shell, Castrol, Millers etc.
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Re: alternatives to selina oil?

Funnily enough, when my last car was in warranty. I called the main dealer for prices/details, and all them quoted non-selenia oil !!...guess its a cost thing.

Wassnt that impressed by the prices, especially considering my specialist did it for almost £120 cheaper.
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Have you tried ebay for Selenia oil?
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like alf4holic, buy online. i got mine from ebay
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Funnily enough, when my last car was in warranty. I called the main dealer for prices/details, and all them quoted non-selenia oil !!...guess its a cost thing.
fiat sold FL Selenia Lubrificanti a few years ago so no fiat group dealerships use selenia oil any more, nor do fiat recommend it any more (since they dont profit). any dealerships that still use it will buy it of their own accord from the now independant FL Selenia Lubrificanti company.

the brand really doesnt matter, as long as you get the correct grade for your engine it is suitable to use.
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Re: alternatives to selina oil?

Hmmm... if you need 10W-40 I'd go for Castrol GTX Magnetec.
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i use magnatec
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Castrol do RS 10 60 as an equivalent, or Agip Racing is also a 10 60. Not used these in the GTA, but with my integrale the previous owner always used Castrol RS, but I couldn't find that. I could find Agip locally and used that, both good oils.

Isn't there a user about on this and other forums called oilman? do a search for him, what he doesn't know about oil isn't worth knowing.
 
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fiat sold FL Selenia Lubrificanti a few years ago so no fiat group dealerships use selenia oil any more, nor do fiat recommend it any more (since they dont profit). any dealerships that still use it will buy it of their own accord from the now independant FL Selenia Lubrificanti company.

the brand really doesnt matter, as long as you get the correct grade for your engine it is suitable to use.
Not true.

County Motors Carlisle (Alfa and FIAT dealers) use Selenia. I've just had both the Gt and 147 serviced recently and it was Selenia they used. They also left (and charged) for a tub of Selenia top up in both cars, too. They left the wrong stuff mind, but that's another story.
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Re: alternatives to selina oil?

they bought selenia by choice either direct from FL Selenia Lubrificanti or from a supplier of their products. they definately didnt get it from fiat. in the past fiat would provide dealerships with cheap selenia oil and require them all to use it exclusively. that doesnt happen any more because selenia has nothing to do with fiat. County Motors Carlisle obviously chose to continue using it, most probably due to customer demand. they are free to use whatever they want.
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The last lot of Selenia 10w60 I bought was from my local Fiat dealer (Wentanes) a couple of months back. I havent checked what Fiat recommend now if anything, I'll check the GFs Bravo handbook when she gets in
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Castrol do RS 10 60 as an equivalent, or Agip Racing is also a 10 60. Not used these in the GTA, but with my integrale the previous owner always used Castrol RS, but I couldn't find that. I could find Agip locally and used that, both good oils.
Castrol Formula RS is 10W60 but it's no longer available. Been replaced with Castrol Edge 10W60 or Castrol Edge Sport 10W60.

Depending on what oil the OPs GTV takes, I'd use Magnetec 10W40 or Edge 10W60.
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Re: alternatives to selina oil?

I use Castrol Edge Sport 10W60 from here - Opie Oils - Performance and Heating Oils (oilman on this forum).

I recently paid £73.31 for 8 litres of oil, a new filter & postage.
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Selenia Oil was sold by its private equity owners to Petronas about two months ago, so its on its second or possibly even third owner since FIAT.

So its Indonesian now....do i see you all rushing out to buy Protons and Peroduas??..well a Lotus maybe...thats more like it

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wow its been sold again! its a hot potato.

you have to wonder if this will have any imapct on the quality of the oil. yes i know every single oil must be made to certain standards, but that doesnt mean every oil is created equal.

then again there was never any suggestion that selenia was any better than carplan or asda oil, only a recommendation to use it from its owner at the time, which is meaningless.
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Re: alternatives to selina oil?

Just a quick note to say Fiat are still recommending Selenia, as of Oct last year, as it says so in the new Bravo handbook (SAE 5-40 Selenia for the 1.9JTD multijet) aswell as all the paraflu products

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Looking at the big picture, I think FIAT decided that peripheral operations like Selenia were keeping money and management attention away from the core business of making cars that 1) sell 2 )don't break 3) put the company into profit. It probably was not big enough to compete against the really big boys either.

I don't think there has ever been anything magical about Selenia, nor do I think of it as anything other than a good product, so i'd never turn people away from it..its just that you can get perfectly good oil for a lot less. I use Comma 10w-40 Diesel-Lite semi synthetic and including a new FRAM filter I changed the oil on the 2.4 for less than 30. I've used Comma on all my Alfas and other cars..and sometimes Halfords Semi Synth. never had any problems. (though I confess I've no idea whats in the Sorento turbo diesel except its semi synth as the dealer did it on service)

In normal road use I'm not sure really high spec oils are necessary..unless you do track days and suchlike which do hammer an engine, or unless you have a VW diesel with one of those supercritical diesel pumps that requires hyper special oil.

Keep your oil to manufacturers grade specifications of course, and don't buy 5 stuff from Lidl

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Re: alternatives to selina oil?

I won't buy selenia personally as I think it is too expensive. Also I never leave oil in an engine for 12,000 miles anyway. I am currently running Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 in my car, but any oil of decent quality and the correct ACEA and APi specs. Viscosity is something that many people will disagree on, it really depends on the climate you live and whether your Alfa burns oil.
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Selenia Oil was sold by its private equity owners to Petronas about two months ago, so its on its second or possibly even third owner since FIAT.

So its Indonesian now....do i see you all rushing out to buy Protons and Peroduas??..well a Lotus maybe...thats more like it

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wow its been sold again! its a hot potato.

you have to wonder if this will have any imapct on the quality of the oil. yes i know every single oil must be made to certain standards, but that doesnt mean every oil is created equal.

then again there was never any suggestion that selenia was any better than carplan or asda oil, only a recommendation to use it from its owner at the time, which is meaningless.
Noit just means it they wanted to make money out of it.
I think it was a good quality oil from what I have read, although if Petronas have bought it I think it is in safe hands. It is an oil company after all.
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I've heard that serious oilheads regard Valvoline very highly.
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Valvoline fan since Houndog I Drag Racing in the sixties. Their tectyl product was good too. Max Life in the daily use motor.:
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Does anyone khow the perfomnace of liqui Moly 10w-40 for our cars.Is it a good oil?
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