172 fastest cars around the ring - Alfa Romeo Forum
You are currently unregistered, register for more features.    
General Alfa Discussion Strictly Alfa Romeo talk only!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
(Post Link) post #1 of 42 Old 07-01-08 Thread Starter
Status: Quo?
AO Silver Member
 
VeloceMitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: United Kingdom
County: West Yorkshire
Posts: 5,211

Member car:

3 Veloce’s..!

172 fastest cars around the ring

Look whats at 155!!

Nordschleife lap records - FastestLaps.com

Not sure where the 8C is though, so I am bit dubious of this chart.
VeloceMitch is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
jabberwocky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,866
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

has the 8c done a proper timed lap under controlled conditions? i think the list is accurate, 2 cars missing though are the F1 and the veyron. i wouldnt expect the 8c to be all that quick(but on the list) its based on an old chassis and is a cruiser not a balls out hypercar.
jabberwocky is offline  
Status: zzzzzzzz
AO Platinum Member
 
symon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Oxfordshire
Posts: 37,094
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

I know Micheal Vergers who is fastest on that list. His former team Mate in the Radical championship, Tim Greaves used to be my boss.
symon is offline  
EddieGTA
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

OK is that you Trailbraker?
 
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
BIDET FITZAKAZI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
County: -
Posts: 3,332

Member car:

Gtv 2.0 ts

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Buggati used the Nordschleife to develop the Veyron in closed session's so i dont think the time's would be posted.
I seem to remember reading that it couldn't complete more than 3 lap's without the car going into "limp" mode due to the gearbox overheating.
BIDET FITZAKAZI is offline  
Status: 660Nm of torqueystuff!
AO Platinum Member
 
Hunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: British Indian Ocean Terr
County: -
Posts: 15,174
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Quote:
Originally Posted by VeloceMitch View Post
Look whats at 155!!
1997 Mercedes C 43 AMG???





Hunter is offline  
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Trailbraker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ireland
County: -
Posts: 5,179

Member car:

156 GTA

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Are these all BTG times, or a mixture of BTG times and full lap times?
>20s or so difference.

These aren't really lap records though I think, just fasted posted times for specific cars picked up from magazines or something.

Otherise there would be a lot of alfaowners on the list!

Having diced with an 8c at the Ring I would guesstimate that an Alfa 8c would do an 8min BTG time or thereabouts if driven well on road legal sport tyres..
Trailbraker is offline  
Status: The BSD says konnichiwa
Global Mod Team
 
BigFoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Japan
County: Tokyo
Posts: 114,689
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Doesn't the driver matter? Surely times are also very dependent whether someone like me drives it or, well, anyone else...
BigFoot is offline  
Status: The BSD says konnichiwa
Global Mod Team
 
BigFoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Japan
County: Tokyo
Posts: 114,689
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailbraker View Post
Having diced with an 8c at the Ring I would guesstimate that an Alfa 8c ...
And you tell us just now?

BigFoot is offline  
EddieGTA
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

I wouldn't say I diced with the 8C, but did atleast share the track with it

AO_Nurburgring 079
 
andyroo75
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Jeremy Clarkson obviously just missed out with his lap in that Jag S Type at 9:59 and Sabine Schmidt nearly got on in a Transit van!
 
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Trailbraker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ireland
County: -
Posts: 5,179

Member car:

156 GTA

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

ah no, I did do some preliminary gibbering with excitement about that on here immediatley I came back from the Ring

..and it was a fairly short dice, lost sight of him after quarter of a lap


Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFoot View Post
And you tell us just now?

Trailbraker is offline  
Status: Winning small victories
AO Platinum Member
 
73GTVJim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: United Kingdom
County: Greater Manchester
Posts: 24,500
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

I was stunned to see the Mazda 3 MPS faster than Audi S3 and S4. I'd never have guessed it was quick enough to make the list despite its supposed performance.
73GTVJim is offline  
(Post Link) post #14 of 42 Old 07-01-08 Thread Starter
Status: Quo?
AO Silver Member
 
VeloceMitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: United Kingdom
County: West Yorkshire
Posts: 5,211

Member car:

3 Veloce’s..!

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

I think we need to take it all with a large pinch of salt, but it's interesting none the less.
My Eyes have gone wonky it's 154 which is the most interesting isn't it
VeloceMitch is offline  
cul
Status: -
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,385
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Click on the top right corner 'which is faster'. Then compare 147 GTA to 156 GTA.

At the end they say.... The 147 GTA is noticeably faster.

Waiting for the backlash!
cul is offline  
Status: -
AO Member
 
EcosseOz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Australia
County: Victoria
Posts: 893

Member car:

Nada at the mo!!

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

This list for the ring has some notable absences in it, particularly the McLaren F1 which was around the 7m11s mark and the BMW M3 CSL which was about 7m22s.

There are a few others missing before you even get to the 7m40s time of the Bugatti Veyron (Wheels mag, Australia) or the 7m42s of the Ford GT40 (Octane magazine).

There are also far quicker times for competition cars, the qualifying lap record is around the 6m11s mark and 6m25s for a race lap.

An 8c is alleged to have lapped in around 8m02s.
EcosseOz is offline  
Status: In the red...
AO Silver Member
 
silvervalver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: United Kingdom
County: East Sussex
Posts: 2,140
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Quote:
Originally Posted by cul View Post
Click on the top right corner 'which is faster'. Then compare 147 GTA to 156 GTA.

At the end they say.... The 147 GTA is noticeably faster.

Waiting for the backlash!
the comparison feature seems to use various tracks, incuding the top gear track times.

Like most things it gives you an idea but isn't what I would call a trust worthy source. All figures get beefed up or talked down depending on who is publishing them, esspecially power.
silvervalver is offline  
Status: -
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 16
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

This is no kind of official record as public laps are self-timed and slightly different, but worth a look

YouTube - 9m30s BTG Nurburgring Alfa GTV

9'30" in a 2.0 GTV

If you have the patience, there's a good moment at about 3' and again at 5' where he flies past a Porsche
fran156 is offline  
Status: -
AO Member
 
EcosseOz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Australia
County: Victoria
Posts: 893

Member car:

Nada at the mo!!

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Quote:
Originally Posted by fran156 View Post
This is no kind of official record as public laps are self-timed and slightly different, but worth a look

YouTube - 9m30s BTG Nurburgring Alfa GTV

9'30" in a 2.0 GTV
Its blatently obvious from that video that the driver is well versed in the 'rings features. And that its not a 'standard' GTV.
EcosseOz is offline  
Status: -
AO Platinum Member
 
Kevin Slegg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: United Kingdom
County: Surrey
Posts: 15,298
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Quote:
Originally Posted by jabberwocky
2 cars missing though are the F1 and the veyron.
Position 41
Kevin Slegg is offline  
Status: -
AO Platinum Member
 
Kevin Slegg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: United Kingdom
County: Surrey
Posts: 15,298
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
1997 Mercedes C 43 AMG???





Yeah; I prefer the one at 154
Kevin Slegg is offline  
Status: -
AO Member
 
EcosseOz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Australia
County: Victoria
Posts: 893

Member car:

Nada at the mo!!

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Slegg View Post
Position 41
Oh, Kevin don't you just hate it when you make a mistake in a post And yep, its not me

Postion 41 is the Bugatti EB110 of which about 140 were produced from 1991-95 with a 3.5L quad turbo V12 engine in the days when Bugatti was owned by an Italian. The Veyron is its successor and the company is now owned by the Germans
EcosseOz is offline  
Status: Daddy bear
Global Mod Team
 
bazza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Congleton - The centre of
Posts: 44,644

Member car:

AMG C63 estate

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

But you may have made a mistake too (I make no claim to know all the BMW models) what about number 27? Or is that an older model?
bazza is offline  
andyroo75
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Found another list on wikipedia

Showing the Veron to have done it in 7:40 and the Alfa 8C in 8:02
Nordschleife fastest lap times - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also gives some info on Nick Heidfelds' run in the BMW F1
 
Status: -
AO Silver Member
 
Trailbraker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ireland
County: -
Posts: 5,179

Member car:

156 GTA

Re: 172 fastest cars around the ring

Well I'm very impressed with my guesstimate of 8min for the 8C then
Trailbraker is offline  
Reply

Go Back   Alfa Romeo Forum > Misc Lounges > Community Discussions > General Alfa Discussion

Tags
172 , cars , fastest , ring

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome