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Cambelt history

Hi Guys, having bought my shiny black 2.5 with "full history" recently, i have done a bit of checking and found the garage that stamped the 72k service didnt do the belts as they were told it had already been done!
The car has now done 75k and to avoid changing just to be safe, are there any tell-tale signs that it has indeed been done, like seals on cam covers etc?
Any tips would be appreciated, ta.
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the garage that stamped the 72k service didnt do the belts as they were told it had already been done!
Unless you can track back to the garage who supposedly did the belts and confirm it with them, sounds like you should replace asap. It might be possible to check the belt condition visually but what about the condition of the water pump, idyllers & tensioner? It's too risky in my book and best to get it done. It's amazing how many FSHs don't include evidence of essentials like this!
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Re: Cambelt history

I would check the state of the belt, see how crisp and clear the white lettering is, look at the inside of the roller bearings, does the blue plastic grease retainer look bright, the surface of the bearing can have black and/or rust deposits on, does the tensioner look white or grey?

Even if they have done the belt, there is a good chance they have not done the bearings or tensioner which accounts for many a belt failure as garages are crap and would not do it unless instructed, whereas a dealer or specialist worth their salt would make sure this is done. Also a general garage would not buy the cam locks for a one off job because of the expense, so have they set the timing/tension properly or just relied on the engine 'not moving'.

Best to assume not done or done properly unless there is documented evidence its been done by someone with Alfa knowledge.

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Thanks guys, the 72k was done by a supposed specialist, earlier history was from Veloces upto to 48k, but unlikely they would have done it so early?
Will give them a ring
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Re: Cambelt history

Bought an 02 plate v6 2.5 earlier in the year(now sold),couldn't confirm belt change as had no s/h after 60k.
Anyway took it to Jamie Porters at Royston ,good job. On stripping it
down it looked as though the belt had been changed ,however the
tensioner,idlers ,waterpump as well as the auxillary belt were all on
their last legs,if you intend keeping the car ,get it done!Money well
spent.
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I would work your way back through the history to check - Phone each servicing garage and ask them to confirm work done.

I done this years back when buying a cheap 164 Super with full history - Turned out that the previous owner had declined a belt change due to cost versus car value. I therefore promptly purchased parts and organised a mechanic to do job (feeling on top of gameat this point!) but the belt snapped on me before change done!!!!!
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hi drummerboy,was in the same boat as you,with service history on my 166 2.5L, upto 69k,now at 71k with a snaped timing belt on my hands,lucky for me am handy with a spanner,but if your not,take it from me ....GET IT LOOKED AT...asap....you could be looking at more than the car is worth to repair a snapped timing belt and a fraction of the cost to get it replaced,most times when it goes into a garage they will only do the belt,and not the tentioner and idlers unless its requested...hope this helps
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Thanks for all those words of wisdom, will get it booked in!!
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HI Guys
My 166 Twin Spark is from January 2001 (ie soon to be 7 years old) but has only a genuine 28K miles(48000kms)...one lady owner and local trips ......school run etc......should I change belt and tensioners NOW???
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Best bet, yes! 7yrs? just bears out what a careful lady driver can achieve: This re-enforces my belief that un-thrashed Alfas, are as durable as any marque.: But, but, they rev. so boys will be boys, and they get a hard life by some, not all treat them as 'racing revvers' though:
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HI Guys
My 166 Twin Spark is from January 2001 (ie soon to be 7 years old) but has only a genuine 28K miles(48000kms)...one lady owner and local trips ......school run etc......should I change belt and tensioners NOW???

Yes, Yes and Yes! Do not delay - Very lucky up to now!
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