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Been meaning to change the cam belt (and balancer belt) on my wifes 147 2.0TS and finally got to do it this weekend.

Took much longer than atisipated (8hrs +) but I think I will do it in 4 hrs next time.

Hard work but rewarding when the engine starts on completion.

Unless you relay enjoy you DIY mechanics I'd get a local specialist to do it.

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Re: Finally did the 2.0 TS cam belt change myself

it took me 8 hours the first time as well (even excluding variator). we'd both be sacked for taking that long if we worked in a garage.
i believe in doing it properly, not quickly.

its more diffcult than your average twin cam, mostly due to space limitations, but you cant trust a garage to do this type of job properly so its the kind of thing you really must do yourself imo.
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Re: Finally did the 2.0 TS cam belt change myself

Agree, just bought a 156 Sportswagon from a ind. dealer. They said they have changed the cam belt, but soon as the 6 months warranty expires, I'm changing it again.

Missus won't be pleased, I always say these things are a 5 minute job....
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Been meaning to change the cam belt (and balancer belt) on my wifes 147 2.0TS and finally got to do it this weekend.
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Re: Finally did the 2.0 TS cam belt change myself

Well done, its a great feeling knowing you have tackled such a job, and saved yourself money at the same time.
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Been meaning to change the cam belt (and balancer belt) on my wifes 147 2.0TS and finally got to do it this weekend.

Took much longer than atisipated (8hrs +) but I think I will do it in 4 hrs next time.

Hard work but rewarding when the engine starts on completion.

Unless you relay enjoy you DIY mechanics I'd get a local specialist to do it.

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Did you use any notes, etc to follow when you did this? 8 hours under the bonnet wouldn't be a problem but a definitive list of tools, etc would be useful to get all the parts together before I started.
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Did you use any notes, etc to follow when you did this? 8 hours under the bonnet wouldn't be a problem but a definitive list of tools, etc would be useful to get all the parts together before I started.
I used notes from this website. Itís superb:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/greenserpent/
(the notes are for a 156 put it ultimately the same)

Also check out www.alfaworshop.co.uk. Jamie has some very handy hints. I bought the parts from here, fantastic service (Iíd take mine here if I lived closer).

Essential tools, cam locks, tensioner tools, cam and balancer bet tensioners. Get both. Can to balancer without one but if youíre doing it single handed you need it. I had to customise the balancer belt tensioner tool I got off ebay as the shaft was too long (air con lines were in the way. So took a hammer to it. Anyway, TDC guide and gauge (some say you donít need this, I found it essential, esp. when putting the cam belt back on). Tippex - to mark out the various sprockets as a helpful guide (found this very useful on the crankshaft sprocket as a safe guard.)

You need a 15mm deep crank (long shaft) spanner to get the air con idler off (very tight gap between bulkhead and idler).

Things that slowed me down:
Auxiliary Belt removal and replacement. Difficult to get at and took me ages to work out how to loosen tension off (itís an auto tensioner type i.e. itís spring loaded). Basically from under the car you need a 15mm spanner onto the idler bolt and pull it toward the front of the car. I got a bar on it for extra leverage. Get someone to help with this if you can esp. putting it back (remember the belt route as well, it goes all over the place).

Putting the cam bet back on and tensioning it. Tried to do this without loosening the front camshaft sprocket. Much easier when I loosened it.

Didnít take any note which bots came out of where on the cam covers. A pain getting them back. Worth marking them as there are at least 3 different lengths (schoolboy error). Remember the longest bolt is for the auxiliary belt cover.

Getting to the balancer belt tensioner bolt was a pain. You need a 10mm deep crank spanner. Very tight space between the air con compressor fixings and tensioner bracket.

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You need a 15mm deep crank (long shaft) spanner to get the air con idler off (very tight gap between bulkhead and idler).
I found this was a git of a bolt. I bought a 15mm swan neck spanner from Halfords and that wouldn't even fit properly. I then bought a 15mm socket and cut it in half with an angle grinder. I could then get a ratchet on it.
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I found this was a git of a bolt. I bought a 15mm swan neck spanner from Halfords and that wouldn't even fit properly. I then bought a 15mm socket and cut it in half with an angle grinder. I could then get a ratchet on it.
Did the wasted trip to halfords myself. Pain. Local motor factors didn't have a swan neck spanner either. Luckily my neighbour had a socket set which were 3mm shorter, so slotted in the gap.

Angle grinder was going to be my next port of call.

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Re: Finally did the 2.0 TS cam belt change myself

Tee hee ... they are my notes!

I haven't actually changed the belts myself yet, but posted these up when I found some info on a service disk for my Pug! (AutoData) ... stupid think is it doesn't show me how to do my Pug belt!!

I was interested in the tools as this is one area there seems to be a lot of discussion especially the tensioning tools. Cam locks are a must I know, but people do have some quirky ways to do without some of the others!!

I won't take that angle grinder back to B&Q now then ... managed to burn one out in under 24 hours cutting some bricks!!

And my thoughts are to take it to Jamie even though is is a bit of a trek ... although I might just use his fixed-price offer as a bargaining tool with my local specialist!!

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Re: Finally did the 2.0 TS cam belt change myself

Thought it was you. Thanks for the site, by the way, very useful.

I didn't save much money, pricing it against Jamies offer, after buying all the tools. But I've got a 156 SW and my old man has a saloon, so should get good use out of them (and save stacks of money in the long run). I may even hire them out (to pay for other specialist tools I'm likely to need).

My local specialist charges £370 for the 2.0ts (without variator).

Changing it yourself is very good exercise!!!!
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