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147 cambelt failure at 35k

Hi All,

Posting this on behalf of my boss who has a 147 1.6 on an 03 plate. The car has done just over 35k and the cambelt snapped on Sunday. She has been quoted around £1500 by a local independant.

She was totally unaware of the change of cambelt replacement from 72k to 36k.

What do you think are her chances of making a claim to Alfa UK against the cost of repair in view of this, especially as the car had not reached the revised mileage, although a bit over on age?

Thanks for any help!
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

Where was the 3-year service done?
Had it already had its 4-year service?

True it hadn't reached 36000miles yet, but it was still 1-year overdue.
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

Might get half the bill paid at Alfa*, make sure she puts up a fight!

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*If she gets the work done at a dealer, I mean.
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

If the car has a full main dealer service history, and they hadn't told her at the three year service that the belt needed changing, then I think she has a case. If not, I think she's stuffed.
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

Even if it was 72k or 3 years, she still doesn't have a case if its 4 years old.
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

It's your boss. surely she can afford to get it fixed! Lol..

Very unlucky though.. 3 years or 36K written in Alfa Romeo engraved stone. I bought my alfa with 52K on the clock and it was 5 years old! First thing I did was that cambelt. For £300 its a small price to pay in comparison to the £1500!
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

I was speaking to a guy on Friday who'd put his 03 plate 147 in for a service only to be told it needed a cambelt as per new guidelines so he contacted ARUK who made a good will payment towards the cost !!

Gotta be worth your boss giving it a try eh
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

Thanks for the replies. Turns out the last service was missed, so it was last serviced late in 2005. She is going to try ARUK but is fully aware that she will be very lucky to get anything......
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

She won't get anything and it hasn't been serviced.
The late 2005 service would have been before it was 3-years old.
The cambelt issue would have been mentioned at its next service, the service that didn't happen.

To have had no service for over 18months is very negligent.

I expect the oil hasn't been checked for 18months either, so it is a wonder that the engine lasted as long as it did.
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I would say get a new, recon engine in. Get her to look on Ebay, as if her's has been run low on oil as well then God knows what other problems it has.

Here's a company that do it, they are offering £1150 plus the knackered engine and you get a new one, fully fitted and guaranteed for a year.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/alfa-156-147-e...QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

Try ALFA UK first. I got onto them and was VERY happy with the outcome, following the need to replace the cambelt at 36,000. (when I bought the car, I did not know about the drop from 72K to 36K for cambelt change)
They are in the process of trying to raise the image of Alfa as a premium marque, so they may well help her.
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

A quick update for you all........

My boss had the work done at independant for around £1500. She then wrote to Alfa and they have just come back offering to pay half the amount 'as a gesture of goodwill', which she has accepted.

As she had missed a service she was pretty happy with the outcome. Shows it's worth contacting Alfa if you have a belt failure. If it was not for the missed service she may well have got more.
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

Good result id say!
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A quick update for you all........

My boss had the work done at independant for around £1500. She then wrote to Alfa and they have just come back offering to pay half the amount 'as a gesture of goodwill', which she has accepted.

As she had missed a service she was pretty happy with the outcome. Shows it's worth contacting Alfa if you have a belt failure. If it was not for the missed service she may well have got more.
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Yes she is very lucky to get compensation for a failure on a car out of warranty that hasn't been serviced to schedule...
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The same happened to my wife...exactly the same circumstances and at 38K, the week before the car was booked in for a service. ARUK paid £1800 towards the bill.
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she;s more jammy than burtons.
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Hi. Shy bairn gets now,t well done
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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

Just to add the usual warning......if your boss didn't get the big end bearings changed at the same time as the head job was done, she is living on borrowed time.....I'd guess some 50% of post-cambelt failure engines run their bearings within 2 - 3 K miles if they haven't been changed. They get nipped when the pistons hit the valves while the crank is still trying to push the rod and piston upwards....

An independent "should" know...but its worth checking. If it wasn't done tell her to be very sensitive to any engine noises developing....

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Re: 147 cambelt failure at 35k

good result and 1500 is a fair price for the work involved. wish i had contacted alfa now!!
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Even if it was 72k or 3 years, she still doesn't have a case if its 4 years old.
If the car has been properly serviced by an Authorised Alfa dealer, that may not exactly be true.......
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Just to add the usual warning......if your boss didn't get the big end bearings changed at the same time as the head job was done, she is living on borrowed time.....I'd guess some 50% of post-cambelt failure engines run their bearings within 2 - 3 K miles if they haven't been changed. They get nipped when the pistons hit the valves while the crank is still trying to push the rod and piston upwards....

An independent "should" know...but its worth checking. If it wasn't done tell her to be very sensitive to any engine noises developing....

Richard (aka prophet of doom )
got to echo richard's comments here, she might get away with it but beware!

and £1500! jeez I can't believe the amount of money paid out to do these jobs, a worst case scenario TS engine rebuild costs £500 in parts and engineering work...

good result for her though
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