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Does anyone know if the difference between the 3.2 in the GT and in 147/156 GTA is down to the software (Map?) or are there some differences with cams/valves etc. Id like to know what the difference is. Also is there a difference is the way they drive?

(Specicially referring to engine not chassis)
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Does anyone know if the difference between the 3.2 in the GT and in 147/156 GTA is down to the software (Map?) or are there some differences with cams/valves etc. Id like to know what the difference is. Also is there a difference is the way they drive?

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GTA engine has slightly higher compression 10,5:1 versus 10:1. That means the cylinder head must be diff. friend of mine got recently the GT 3,2, i would say GTA engiene is a little more aggressive on throttle
I might be wrong, its just my feeling. We could check top speed ,they are both ~260km/h fast. But again GTA feels a little more faster at >210km/h.

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As far as I know, it's just the map
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GTA engine has slightly higher compression 10,5:1 versus 10:1. That means the cylinder head must be diff. friend of mine got recently the GT 3,2, i would say GTA engiene is a little more aggressive on throttle
I might be wrong, its just my feeling. We could check top speed ,they are both ~260km/h fast. But again GTA feels a little more faster at >210km/h.

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or the head gasket could be different.
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Does anyone know if the difference between the 3.2 in the GT and in 147/156 GTA is down to the software (Map?) or are there some differences with cams/valves etc. Id like to know what the difference is. Also is there a difference is the way they drive?

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Marketing!

Exactly the same engine.
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Marketing!

Exactly the same engine.

Canīt imagine they increased engine compression just by remap. Or Alfa is bull****ting about technical data.
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Cylinder head is different, and theres a differnt fuel map.
The GTA engine has 10bhp more than a GT one- FACT
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As far as I'm aware there are Elves in the cylinder head of the GTA engine who keep the cam lobes oiled with pure gold dust mixed with lanolin. Others polish the pistons as they reciprocate using lambswool mittens, and still more ride the crank counterweights shifting from side to side to get that perfect balance..............it all adds up to an extra 10 BHP (bull****, hype and poppycock)
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As far as I'm aware there are Elves in the cylinder head of the GTA engine who keep the cam lobes oiled with pure gold dust mixed with lanolin. Others polish the pistons as they reciprocate using lambswool mittens, and still more ride the crank counterweights shifting from side to side to get that perfect balance..............it all adds up to an extra 10 BHP (bull****, hype and poppycock)
So the klonks and bangs might not be the suspension/ARB on my car?? I might just be cornering too fast and making the elves angry
 
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Cylinder head is different, and theres a differnt fuel map.
The GTA engine has 10bhp more than a GT one- FACT

A rather loose 'fact' actually - any car will leave the factory within a certain range of power - eg. between 240 and 260bhp. No two GTAs will be exactly the same - it's not that scientific.
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I thought the exhaust was different - but I could be wrong there
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I thought the exhaust was different - but I could be wrong there
I think the same, as the 156 GTA sounds a lot better then GTV 3.2
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The exhaust is of course different, but in terms of engine, they are exactly the same.
 
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Does anyone know if the difference between the 3.2 in the GT and in 147/156 GTA is down to the software (Map?) or are there some differences with cams/valves etc. Id like to know what the difference is. Also is there a difference is the way they drive?

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there is no mechanical difference, only software is a bit changed, but I did remap of my own, and put GTA software
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GTA engine has slightly higher compression 10,5:1 versus 10:1. That means the cylinder head must be diff. friend of mine got recently the GT 3,2, i would say GTA engiene is a little more aggressive on throttle
I might be wrong, its just my feeling. We could check top speed ,they are both ~260km/h fast. But again GTA feels a little more faster at >210km/h.

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my official mechanic says different
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Cylinder head is different, and theres a differnt fuel map.
The GTA engine has 10bhp more than a GT one- FACT
Both the engines has 250 hp and 10,5:1 compression.

Marketing has required different data stated to put GTA at the higher level of the range, but in fact the engines are exactlt the same in each and every bolt.
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Or Alfa is bull****ting about technical data.
Almost right....Alfa is not bull****ting about data but it was needed to give to GTA a look of "unique", so the stated technical data was slighty changed.
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Almost right....Alfa is not bull****ting about data but it was needed to give to GTA a look of "unique", so the stated technical data was slighty changed.

but it is a little bit difference in acceleration between GT vs. GTA

not because of weight - because it"s the same, probably AR cheating with data
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but it is a little bit difference in acceleration between GT vs. GTA

not because of weight - because it"s the same, probably AR cheating with data
GTA has a more aggressive map. And different is the GT, the 166 and Thesis.
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GTA has a more aggressive map. And different is the GT, the 166 and Thesis.

I know",,, but like I said, I put modified/tunned map of GTA on my GT, I increase my performance a little bit, but I also increase petrol consumption a lot!!!!
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I know",,, but like I said, I put modified/tunned map of GTA on my GT, I increase my performance a little bit, but I also increase petrol consumption a lot!!!!

If the map is the stock GTA...it seems quite strange to me. If has been modified by a tuner....I'ld change it with the stock one
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If the map is the stock GTA...it seems quite strange to me. If has been modified by a tuner....I'ld change it with the stock one

It is not stock GTA map,,, it is tunned GTA map, tunner says that it should give 8% more power than stock one, but if you want the truth, I don"t feel that 8% more power...
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It is not stock GTA map,,, it is tunned GTA map, tunner says that it should give 8% more power than stock one, but if you want the truth, I don"t feel that 8% more power...
250 * 8% = 20hp .....

It seems to me the "magic inlet" from Autodelta....POWER POWER POWER....the truth is ....LESS POWER and LOT OF MONEY!

Put the original one, and you have no risk for your engine health. Rebuilded maps usually stress a lot the engine and are not made to keep an eye on temperatures (high high risk)!
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Almost right....Alfa is not bull****ting about data but it was needed to give to GTA a look of "unique", so the stated technical data was slighty changed.

From Styling point of view it is unique and GT is actually the more expensive car.
It doesnt look to me logical to give a wrong number about engine compression for marketing reason. Very few GTA driver know that difference.
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From Styling point of view it is unique and GT is actually the more expensive car.
Are You comparing to 147 GTA? the 156 GTA Salon retailed at 42.500 euro, the GT 3.2 at 37.000 euro.. I think the 147 retailed at 34.000 euro? (german prices)
 
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