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Buying Advice - Which is the most fun?

I hope that people can best advise me.

I am currently going through an enjoyable mid-life crisis and hope that 2015 brings true Alfa ownership. What I need to find out from owners is which model is actually the most fun.

I want a petrol car (as I was rather badly bitten by the diesel bug this year by a Mazda 6 that went from working to right-off in the space of one day) that gives a smile every time I use it. In the running currently is the 2.0 litre GTV, 2.0 GT and 147. I do not think that my budget (assume small) will stretch to the V6 in any model as the upkeep on this engine will prove beyond me.

Has anyone owned all three and could suggest an alternative?

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GTV is the most sporty but also the worst put together
GT is the best looking but will have a jts in 2.0 form so not so great
147 is just a 147 so not as special as the rest.

All need cambelts at 36k or 3 years v6's are less problematic, sound better and don't cost that much more to repair. Just run. If you must have a small engine petrol GT buy a 1.8 as it's a TS and not a JTS. Consider the 1.9 16v GT and 147. They can be tuned to make them very quick. Avoid selespeed.

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2.0TS 147 was my original Alfa. It wasn't that sporty imho.

I actually preferred the 2.2JTS in the Brera. But it's "not a proper Alfa Engine"
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GTV is "okay" put together... but if you like fiddling/tinkering then it'll be fun on and off the road.

GT might be worth a punt if you look at a Blackline 1.8. They have a T/Spark engine which is less prone to the (usually sensors) issues that can but don't necessarily afflict the JTS.. though T/S has its own weak areas (cam-belt/tensioner/water pump is not "weak" but need to be looked after properly).

147.. is more or less a hybrid of the two others.. so not tooooo shonky. Just less glamorous.

If it was me... I'd go for the GT in 1.8 or JTS flavour.


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Thank all of you for your help. This is great advise and just what I was after. I initially discounted the 1.8 as it seems a little slow off the line (but fully aware that 0-60 times are not a reliable indicator of performance). I guess this is the ultimate version of what I am after then:

Used 2005 Alfa Romeo GT Coupe V6 24V for sale in Norfolk | Pistonheads

I just don't think the buying budget is going to get to 5.5K.

Keep the suggestions coming...
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I would go with the V6, as it suits the character of an Alfa better.

the TS isn't a bad engine, but due to the fact these cars are relatively heavy they can feel slightly underpowered in certain situations.

I would have the 147 if I had to have a 2.0 TS.

It doesn't look as good as the GT or GTV, but it is more practical, and is lighter so it should perform better.
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I have a virtually identical GT to the one advertised although I do not have Q2 or rear parking sensors. It's a great car for long runs but is not as 'chuckable' as my GTV. The GT is a much heavier car and the turning circle is Japanese supertanker style. Don't get me wrong, I love the car, (it's my daily driver), it's solid and well planted on the road and not too bad on economy unless you boot it. Trip meter shows that I average about 22 mpg. Whatever you decide the need to check service history is a must. With any luck the previous owner will be up to date with belts, bushes, arms etc. I also have that same exhaust, the rumble of which is great but sets off the alarm on my others when I reverse it into the drive !!!!!!!!
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Not really.

To be honest if I wanted something exciting I wouldn't have any of them.

Preferrably I would go for rear wheel drive

BMW M3, A Westfield, Nissan 350Z, there are loads depensing on the budget.

Or even a modern hot hatch with 200+ BHP, although most are FWD except for the Merc and BMW offerings.

If it had to be italian I would get another Fiat Coupe, but in the Turbo plus flavour.
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Just buy a Busso V6 - the Alfa it comes fitted in is free and remember the redline is the target, not the rev limit.
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If you want a silly grin on your face, get a GTV V6
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Again thanks for your help. And Symon, just when I thought I had made my mind up, you suggest a 350Z (for example) which makes perfect sense if a V6 engine is the one to go for.
One of the reasons why I wanted an Alfa is for the owners' club: I am not sure of the same ambience at a track day for example for BMW or Nissan (but I may simply stereotyping).
I shy away from the V6 because of maintenance costs, but most of you seem to suggest this is an assumption on my part. Has anyone got a ball park figure for servicing in a typical year, please?
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For engine maintenance only based on my 24valve and 12 valve, each driving about 6000 miles per annum:
annual oil and filters change - about 100 at a specialist or DIY
every 5-6 years - cambelt, auxiliary belts, de-tensioner, pulleys, set of spark plugs, cam cover gaskets, timing and possibly a water pump - about 1000 to 1500 at a specialist
All up about twice the cost of tyres

The rest of the car? You may have a lucky run but over time you will face essential maintenance that will make the engine service costs look like peanuts and I don't mean restoration

One thing I believe in is you can't get the Alfa smile in anything younger than a 75 unless it has a Busso V6

For a good all rounder I would recommend a 2.5 156. Very little money to lose or risk

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For a good all rounder I would recommend a 2.5 156. Very little money to lose or risk
This is the route I went down to get a V6 Busso. Little bit tatty but it had the amazing engine. The rest of it all worked and functioned. It was amazing. By far the best value Alfa on the planet.

I had V6 sound, 24 crazy valves and a 156 look. Okay not the greatest inside. But I didn't care.
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Not many for sale though...
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Here is one - Staffs is not so far away - not sure about the yellow warning light and the vendor is too mean to put any petrol in the car: ebay 301386880481
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Another one which is fun to drive, IMO much better than the 156 and 147, is the 145 Cloverleaf.

If you can find a good one you will love it.
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Crikey, another contender. Except I cannot find a single one for sale.

After loads of research I think my problem with the V6 is the money I need to buy one will also get me a Nissan 350Z which does not have the visual appeal, or the owner's club vibe I am after, but goes like stink and is probably more reliable. But here's hoping Mrs M. does not blow the whole budget on a kitchen.
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Crikey, another contender. Except I cannot find a single one for sale.

After loads of research I think my problem with the V6 is the money I need to buy one will also get me a Nissan 350Z which does not have the visual appeal, or the owner's club vibe I am after, but goes like stink and is probably more reliable. But here's hoping Mrs M. does not blow the whole budget on a kitchen.
350Z is about 3500 for the cheapest though, thats a lot more than most of the other Alfas in this thread would cost.

Do you mean Nissan 300ZX?
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One thing I believe in is you can't get the Alfa smile in anything younger than a 75 unless it has a Busso V6

For a good all rounder I would recommend a 2.5 156. Very little money to lose or risk

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I disagree with that in bold, however I've never owned an Alfa older than our 97 916, but the 916 we have is the best smile per I have had in any car I've owned

Although I have never owned a V6, it is I'm sure the best engine in an Alfa, however the 2.0TS in our 916 Spider sounds quite nice when pushed. Performance is adequate but not thrilling.
The diesel (I know you don't want one) in the GT is rather good, however the noise really is ****.
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350Z is about 3500 for the cheapest though, thats a lot more than most of the other Alfas in this thread would cost.

Do you mean Nissan 300ZX?
In the last couple of days a few really tempting GTV V6's have come to market that are well under the 3.5k. My real hesitation is whether the cheaper cars are going to work out more expensive in the end. But all seem to well looked after and have tons of paperwork.

My aim with all of this is to get to the Classic Alfa track day at Goodwood next year:

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So here's hoping...
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