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hello there

just need a bit of advice.....i am in 2 minds wether to get timing belt/60k service done at the same time.the car has done 53k and need s timing belt, variator and all the rest of it..but would it be worth while to get the 60k service done at the same time or wait till 60k miles came up before i do it..

i know it wouldnt hurt to get it done but would it be worth it to wait till 60k was on clock...


was also just thinking just to get the timing belt service and an oil/ filter change done then doing 60k service when it came round to it

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Re: timing belt change/60k service

Err, have the timing belt and tensioner EVER been replaced? If not I would be getting very nervous.

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Re: timing belt change/60k service

You have done 53k miles when the advice is to replace the belts after 36k miles / 3 years? How do you sleep at night?
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Yep Wrinx is right. It's now unofficially official that the twinnys get done at 36K miles.

I've heard though that Alfa garages "inspect" the belt and see if it needs changed at 36K.

How they can tell I don't know as a 36K belt would probably look the same as a 56K belt.........
 
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How they can tell I don't know as a 36K belt would probably look the same as a 56K belt.........
They go and look at how much money they have taken that week, then decide whether it needs doing early!
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Re: timing belt change/60k service

bought the car with 47k on clock only had her for 6 months

it is getting booked in for service in the next couple of weeks

@ selespeed....i sleep very easily thanks m8

@ wrinx...i donth think the belt/tensioners have ben done ever..but will be very soon

@ alfajack....lol...it getting booked in at independent(blubell motor company, newton aycliffe) very soon so i dont have to worry that they aint sold enough cars

but is it worth getting timing belt/ 60k service done together or wait for the 60k service
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Re: timing belt change/60k service

I'd get the timing belt done NOW.

Buy the plugs from shop4parts.co.uk and do the plugs/oil etc at 60k by yourself if you can and save yourself a bit of money.
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Re: timing belt change/60k service

Get the timing belts and tensioners done now; IIRC you don't need to touch the oil and filter to do them, so it's not like you'll be paying to have a service done twice.
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That's what I'll need to do in 2 months. Oh my pocket...
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@ alfajack....lol...it getting booked in at independent(blubell motor company, newton aycliffe) very soon so i dont have to worry that they aint sold enough cars

but is it worth getting timing belt/ 60k service done together or wait for the 60k service
Hi Mr Orange, how did you get on at Bluebell, as I need a cambelt doing soon in the NYorks/Teesside/Durham area?

Anyone else have a recommendation for around here?
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Hi Mr Orange, how did you get on at Bluebell, as I need a cambelt doing soon in the NYorks/Teesside/Durham area?

Anyone else have a recommendation for around here?
hello there,

got my timing belt, variator, tensioners, aux belt, air filter change, oil and filter change done for 540..they were very helpful and would definately go back there for other work done..

btw...reg vardys quoted me about 200 quid more to do the same work which i thought was rediculous imho

there is also an alfa/fiat specialist in stockton called fast...they are meant to be good also
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Thanks, I'll see if there are any more local recommendations

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Where exactly are you F156?
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Northallerton, N Yorkshire. Local dealers are Vardy in Darlington, typical main dealer multi-franchise expense and standards
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Re: timing belt change/60k service

There's a place recently opened round the corner from me in Newton Aycliffe called B.M.C. The head mechanic held the same job at Reg Vardy's in Darlington and worked on Alfas for about 6 years.

There's also a place just of Portrack lane in Stockton called F.A.S.T. They were recommended to me by a 155 owning salesman at reg Vardy Fiat in Stockton but haven't used them myself.

Further away in Newcastle is Lyles. They used to be a dealership but are now independant and have a very good reputation. I have had my last 2 services done there and was happy with the work done.

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There's a place recently opened round the corner from me in Newton Aycliffe called B.M.C. The head mechanic held the same job at Reg Vardy's in Darlington and worked on Alfas for about 6 years.

There's also a place just of Portrack lane in Stockton called F.A.S.T. They were recommended to me by a 155 owning salesman at reg Vardy Fiat in Stockton but haven't used them myself.

Further away in Newcastle is Lyles. They used to be a dealership but are now independant and have a very good reputation. I have had my last 2 services done there and was happy with the work done.

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Yes, that's useful. I might mix the work with a day in Newcastle.

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Re: timing belt change/60k service

Just out of curiousity, how do you know the timing belt and variator need replacing? Is it just the age of the car, the milage or have you been told it needs doing by someone who's looked at it? I'm very much of the mind that there is no point in being paranoid about these things and changing the belts for no real reason. As long as the condition of the belts and tensioners are checked properley and regularly, then I see no reason to change them unless they show wear.
The 147 that I currently own had the belts changed at the 60k service when they were checked and found that the tensioners were worn. My last car, a 1.8T golf GTI went to 118k on the original belt and tensioners. They were all replaced because the tensioners were worn, apparently the belt looked fine!
I'm not advocating that you should leave the belts alone for as long as possible, just that, in my tiny opinion, I don't see the point in wasting money on something if it doesn't need doing. On the other hand, I can see why to some, spending a few hundred pounds on piece of mind is money well spent.
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In my opinion there are enough reports of timing belts failing before 72000 miles to make me want to change mine more frequently. If you do check a belt thoroughly, then you might as well put a new one back on instead of the old one that you've just inspected
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Re: timing belt change/60k service

I think I would rather spend 500 getting it all replaced every 3 years than a bill for 2000 if / when the belt fails. There are so many cases where this has happened that its just not worth the worry.

You damage the engine in an older 145 or 155 and its cheaper to buy another car instead of rebuilding the engine.
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You damage the engine in an older 145 or 155 and its cheaper to buy another car instead of rebuilding the engine.
It'll soon be cheaper to buy a replacement car than change the cam belt
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Fantasy 156, I know a small back street garage in Middlesbrough and the owner/mechanic is absolutely brilliant, and very reasonable. I know for a fact he has done timing belt on a 156 2l before (my cousins!) along with balancer belt and everything. PM me if you want his name and number

PS as soon as my GTA is out of warranty he will be looking after it
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The 147 that I currently own had the belts changed at the 60k service when they were checked and found that the tensioners were worn.
Sounds like you've been very lucky. If you search this site, I expect you will find more people whose cam belts have not lasted to the 72k interval than those who have.
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Re: timing belt change/60k service

Jet, you have been very lucky.
Usually people find out the tensioners are worn when the cambelt falls off...

(closely followed by a 2000 bill)
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