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Anyone used Alfa Workshop???

Hi Guys, anyone used Alfa Workshop for the cambelt change on a V6 GTV? It is listed as 400 all in with VAT. Which seems rather good.

Just wondering if anyone has used them were happy or not?


I want a good job done for sure regardless of price, but if the price and quality are there its win win right.

Your thoughts of Alfa Workshop??
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They are a well known, well used and well reviewed indi - there are a large number of satisfied forum users just do a search either on Alfa Workshop or Jamie Porter.

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I have been using them for about 3 years,very helpful over the phone if you got problem with your car and good price. I'm about 1.5 hrs drive for me,its a bit far but i know they do a good job. Since your getting your cam belt done,they offer a complimentary car for the day if you booked it in advance plus Cambridge is 30mins drive. Saying that you can't really drive around the city so you need to park outside but you can catch the bus. The other option is a train,30 mins from Royston station and about 5min walk from the workshop.

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I would give them top marks....remember though there should always be extra costs involved. You may need a new water pump, some pulleys and cam cover gaskets. It is also a great opportunity to change spark plugs and renew the auxillary belt!
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Jamie is a top bloke and really knows his stuff...I would highly recommend Alfa Workshop! Had my 159 Ti serviced there twice...great price and no problems at all. Get Jamie to show you the restoration jobs their working on and the engine rebuild department...really interesting if you love classic Alfa's as well as modern.
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Used them a few times and very happy with the service they provide
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Highly recommended here. They seem very thorough. Ive had a cambelt changed there before!
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Again, top workshop. Would be well worth the trip
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Thanks for all the advice, in the end I took it to NJS Pershore for the Cambelt, these guys were really good chaps. Neil the owner is happy to spend plenty of time with you and races Alfa's too (he knows his stuff).

Came out with a brand new cambelt + tensoners, idlers the whole lot, new gaskets and some other bits done. Bill of 800 wa steep, but have to be honest the peace of mind knowing your cambelt is done correctly is priceless.

The NJS boys also went fuly over the car, I was very happy that other than new brake hoses needed soon and exhaust rubber there is nothing else wrong with my GTV. I like hearing that.
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800 for a V6 cambelt is a rip off no matter how good they are. I hope the "some other bits" were 300 worth.
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Agree with Mitch
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800 sounds a bit steep to me too

Mind you it's a fair slog from Gloucester to Royston, factor in the time, fuel and wear and tear it's probably not worth it.

These steep prices from specialists are disturbing though. I know 'knowledge' should be rewarded but when the differentials pricewise between so-called specialists and the offical dealer network get blurred it does make you think.

Talking of which, AlfaWorkShop are fine but do remember their labour charge is 66, which isn't exactly cheap. Not when compred to the local dealer who have a promotion rate at the moment for older Alfas of 54. It all adds up, we need to be careful in these difficult times, but clearly some 'specialists' seem to operate in their own vacuum timecapsule.
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Talking of which, AlfaWorkShop are fine but do remember their labour charge is 66, which isn't exactly cheap. Not when compred to the local dealer who have a promotion rate at the moment for older Alfas of 54. It all adds up, we need to be careful in these difficult times, but clearly some 'specialists' seem to operate in their own vacuum timecapsule.
66/hr is a very fair rate for a specialist imo. My main dealer, although very good (rare I know ) is closer to 120/hr. Not many main dealers could survive on 53/hr for long.
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66/hr is a very fair rate for a specialist imo. My main dealer, although very good (rare I know ) is closer to 120/hr. Not many main dealers could survive on 53/hr for long.
That's for older Alfas Mitch - all the newer stuff i.e.fleet etc gets charged the full whack.

Actually my current specialist, who is excellent, charges 40, so I suppose I should be happy with that
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800 for a V6 cambelt is a rip off no matter how good they are. I hope the "some other bits" were 300 worth.
ok guys lets get our facts right the cambelt job at njs cost 579.14 + vat so not 800.00 as previously stated

and a break down of the costs follow

belt 42.91 tensioner 116.25 bearings 99.96 for the pair rocker cover gaskets including plug seals 76.53 + a new bolt to replace the rounded off idler one 3.49 + labour @ 240.00all added up = 579.14 + vat total 694.97

i think this is hardly a (rip off) but i think it is a very fair price for a job that has been done properly ask yourself this the labour is only 240.00 to do this job for 400.00 including vat as has been quoted on here how do they do it ??? the vat is 66.66 that only leaves 333.34 the parts (for the complete job we have done) the parts add upto 339.14 ummm i think there are either people doing cheap cambelt jobs who do not replace all the parts or there are people telling porkys either way if you perfer to have your cambelt done on the cheap please feel free but do not call those specialists who do it properly "rip offs)
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You don't have to get so defensive, it's your money after all. We are just saying, Alfaworkshop are the best, change all the parts, and a great deal cheaper than you paid. I guess Jamie gets a good deal on parts because he does so many. Mind you, he only charges 96 for a tensioner compared to your 116 so there is 20 saved in one part.

But at the end of the day, if you're happy then that's fine.
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I'm not the customer I'm neil at Njs :-)
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Then you are in the best position to explain why you are in the trade and are passing on such a high mark up on parts?
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The prices quoted are Alfa RRP :-) we do not put on a (high mark up) I'm sure our customers are very happy with our prices and workmanship our labour rate is 60 per hour and we charge book times and we do not charge more for new cars :-) we normally charge book times but in the instance of the v6 cambelt in question we charged 4 hrs instead of the book 5.5 hrs therefore a discount of 90 on our normal labour rate :-) As we do give discounts on older cars as we love Alfas too :-)
I think it's great you are sticking up for your specialist good ones are hard to come by,

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The prices quoted are Alfa RRP :-) we do not put on a (high mark up) I'm sure our customers are very happy with our prices and workmanship our labour rate is 60 per hour and we charge book times and we do not charge more for new cars :-) we normally charge book times but in the instance of the v6 cambelt in question we charged 4 hrs instead of the book 5.5 hrs therefore a discount of 90 on our normal labour rate :-) As we do give discounts on older cars as we love Alfas too :-)
I think it's great you are sticking up for your specialist good ones are hard to come by,

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If you're saying that you charge Alfa Romeo RRP for parts then I'm sorry you're charging on the mark-up you make on parts to the customer, unless you pay full RRP from your supplier, which I very much doubt. Neil, some of us have been about a long time, if you make a mark-up on parts that's fine, just be honest about it and forget the sshhhhhhpeeeillllll.

If you charge AR 'book time' for servicing (except in this instance of the V6 cambelt change apparently) then we all know that the official dealer network 'loads' the book times, this is one of the reasons we use specialists as they do tend to undercut the dealers on this one.

As mentioned AlfaWorkShop are quoting 400, they are a very respected specialist on here, this is a useful and genuine 'benchmark' price for this particular job.

Sorry, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, you are a well-known specialist, clearly you're just having a bad day...........

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Spider Alfa workshop don't include the idlers(must be changed) or the gaskets according to the website . Take these off the price and tell us the difference. If its not far off then it's fair enough everywhere is different,
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Okay guys this thread was a simple question of asking opinions on garages, some people seem to have taken it a little personally.

From what I can see there is alot of support about AlfaWorkshop, fair enough, I dont know Jamie so cant comment. What I can say is that Neil at NJS did a great job.

Although I said 800, it was 730, and this included full cambelt kit, 2 Idlers, Tensioner, two new sealing gaskets & cleaning out my CDA.

I did speak with Jamie at Alfaworkshop when shopping around and although it was 400 this did not include the Two Idlers.

Personally I was very happy with the service from NJS, Thanks Neil.

P.s. Hope the race season is going well.

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