V6 engine - Drawings, pictures - Alfa Romeo Forum
You are currently unregistered, register for more features.    
 
Thread Tools
(Post Link) post #1 of 19 Old 01-08-10 Thread Starter
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Germany
County: Nordrhein-Westfalen
Posts: 7

Member car:

147

V6 engine - Drawings, pictures

Hi there,

I'm looking at using a V6 alfa engine/gearbox in a project car. I'm particularly interested in the 3.2L from the 147 Gta but am open to other V6's is they have sufficient balls.

Im chasing some geometrical information on any of these engines as I'm really stuck with the design of the rear end when I have no Idea how this engine looks.

So what I'm hoping someone here could help me with is some revealing pictures of the engine and gear box as removed from the car. Orthogonal pictures (top, front, sides back) would be absolutely perfect, but also any drawings from the user manual would also be good.

If I get enough information to make a 3D model then I'm happy to share it on here.

Cheers guys

Tim
tim.wright is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Status: Needs a thermostat
AO Silver Member
 
10,500RPM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ireland
County: -
Posts: 3,263
10,500RPM is offline  
(Post Link) post #3 of 19 Old 01-08-10 Thread Starter
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Germany
County: Nordrhein-Westfalen
Posts: 7

Member car:

147

Porn... cheers mate

Still on the lookout for drawings too

Tim
tim.wright is offline  
(Post Link) post #4 of 19 Old 01-08-10 Thread Starter
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Germany
County: Nordrhein-Westfalen
Posts: 7

Member car:

147

Also, if anyone knows the weight of this engine I'd love to know myself

Tim
tim.wright is offline  
Status: Needs a thermostat
AO Silver Member
 
10,500RPM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ireland
County: -
Posts: 3,263
I have no idea where you will find a drawing but the engine weight is discussed here

https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/engin...ne-weight.html
10,500RPM is offline  
Alexandrus
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
What the heck is wrong with this forum, no links to topics work, not even the ones in the notification emails.
 
Status: GTA facelift + engine rebuild. In progress
Club Member
Membro Premio
 
Joss's Avatar
 
Club Member Number: 1014
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: United Kingdom
County: Dorset
Posts: 19,115
Garage
Think there is a problem with the links atm
Joss is offline  
(Post Link) post #8 of 19 Old 15-08-10 Thread Starter
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Germany
County: Nordrhein-Westfalen
Posts: 7

Member car:

147

Thanks guys,

I have stated modelling it based on what I can see. Its pretty basic but I'm hoping it will encourage some suggestions or more measurements from people!



I started the block based on the known values of bore (93mm) and stroke (78mm). I guessed a conrod eye-to-eye length of 150mm which then gave me the crankshaft location. The V-angle is 60.

A few critical things I'm looking for now if anyone have is;
Distance in between the 2 CV joints
Sump depth

Plus if anyone have any other random measurements it will really help with my scaling (even little things like alternator pulley diameter, intake runner diameter and spacing etc...)

Of course Im happy to give out the model if anyone have an interest in it.

BTW, this is where its home will hopefully be. A work in progress...



*EDIT: Anyone know how to turn on the IMG tags?

Cheers
-Tim
tim.wright is offline  
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: United Kingdom
County: Greater London
Posts: 5

Member car:

Verious

Hello there, and nice drawings..... try calling your local carspares or altonator/pump specialist thay should be able to give you the measurements.
GajetMotors is offline  
Status: faclifting a 156
AO Silver Member
 
biffa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: United Kingdom
County: Lancashire
Posts: 3,199
the guy you would be best PM'ing is Chris155, have a look at some of his stuff...V6 mad...
biffa is offline  
Status: Keep dogs off the grass... And cats off crack
AO Member
 
semtex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: United Kingdom
County: Suffolk
Posts: 222

Member car:

156 JTDm 16V

Ahhh Catia... ;-) Looking good so far

Can't offer any dimensions, but work with the cat all day... If you need any photo quality renderings from your CAD, just give me a shout... (Automotive design/styling is what I do for work)....
semtex is offline  
(Post Link) post #12 of 19 Old 25-08-10 Thread Starter
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Germany
County: Nordrhein-Westfalen
Posts: 7

Member car:

147

Cool cheers,

I think the photo rendering will be some way off yet! I will keep this in mind however.

Just a quick question. Can someone check the picute I posted here;


And tell me if the engine is mounted backwards (i.e. the drive shafts will rotate the wrong way!)? I think it is but it a bit hard to tell without owning one of these cars. The gearbox should be on the RIGHT hand side of the car right?

Cheers

Tim
tim.wright is offline  
Status: Remembering why I dislike working on old cars....
AO Silver Member
 
ChrisS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 2,712

Member car:

Mercedes C350e

Gearbox is to the left side, as per your drawing.
ChrisS is offline  
Alexandrus
Status: - Update
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
And so is on the GTA and other Alfa V6.
 
Status: faclifting a 156
AO Silver Member
 
biffa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: United Kingdom
County: Lancashire
Posts: 3,199
its correct...
biffa is offline  
(Post Link) post #16 of 19 Old 29-08-10 Thread Starter
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Germany
County: Nordrhein-Westfalen
Posts: 7

Member car:

147

Cool thanks guys,

Would have been better for my weight distribution if it was the other way but Im not too keen on having 5 reverse gears!

Another question; does anyone have the dimensions for the stock radiator? The cores I threw into my assy yesterday seem a little too big for the body work. (see picture)


At the moment I have 2 of 800 x 400 x 100 deep. This is just a very rough guess.

Thanks again

Tim
tim.wright is offline  
Status: Meh.
AO Platinum Member
 
NineOneSix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: United Kingdom
County: Hertfordshire
Posts: 30,067
Garage

Member car:

GTV V6 3.0

are these drawings going to be made outside the computer later?

Would be nice to see it in the flesh, would be a quick lola with that in the back!
NineOneSix is offline  
(Post Link) post #19 of 19 Old 29-08-10 Thread Starter
Status: -
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Germany
County: Nordrhein-Westfalen
Posts: 7

Member car:

147

Yea hopefully, I think it will be a long term project though. Im designing nearly everything myself (it is not a lola). This alone will take some time.

@Chris155, thanks for thos links! There a lot of detail in those pictures.

Tim
tim.wright is offline  
Reply

Go Back   Alfa Romeo Forum > Supported Alfa Romeo Models > Technical & Vehicle Assistance > Engines (TS, JTS, JTD & V6)

Tags
drawings , engine , pictures

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Who's got the highest Mileage 166 on the forum? Stephen Manjai Alfa 164 & 166 578 2 Weeks Ago 18:07
OBD II Codes Smaky Alfa 145 & 146 62 14-08-19 13:36
Alfa Romeo Engine Numbers TS,JTS,V6,JTD biffa Engines (TS, JTS, JTD & V6) 35 27-03-17 21:58
Drove my first Alfa today - Few Questions 2.5 V6 156 Gwedo Alfa 147, 156 & GT 21 13-06-10 22:48
Mito clover (and other Alfa propaganda) Toronto Spider General Alfa Discussion 4 10-09-09 09:14

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome