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Hi all, my 04 156 JTS seems need to change oil again (just changed 1800kms ago, using Shell helix 5W40, but its becoming black)

I heard someone said that the ingredient of Castrol edge 10w60 is 99% like Selina 10w60

so Im wondering which one is more suitable for the 2.0JTS ?

btw, is it ok to use the 10W60 in winter? ( 5~15 degree)

and will there be any different feelings for changing from 5w40 to 10w60?


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(Sorry mates, I didnt articulated clearly why I want to change the oil again in such a short period,

just heard that 10w60 is better for JTS and I'd also like to keep the engine more cleanning)



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Oil does often go black very quickly. It doesn't mean it's going off, it's normal.
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If it doesn't go black, you have to ask yourself where all the dirt is...!

However, the 2.0JTS is spec'd with 10W60 oil, not 5W40.
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Yes, definitely I understand why it goes black

The engine was very dirty and the oil was very very black when I bought it,
so I changed the oil twice in one day, just for cleanning the engine.
it still was very black after it was drained first time, even only run about 150kms,

then I put the helix and after hundreds kms it seems alright, now has it has done 2000kms,
just want to make the engine more cleanning.

other hand, I like to do the major service frequently,
it makes me very raughty after the engine oil and filter replaced everytime, just like give myself a sauna

so that's why I'd like to change the oil again in such a short period.
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If it doesn't go black, you have to ask yourself where all the dirt is...!

However, the 2.0JTS is spec'd with 10W60 oil, not 5W40.

Another reason is that I heard 10w60 is more suitable for 2.0 JTS .

that's exactly why I want to change the oil again.

and now wondering which one is better for my baby?

Shell Helix racing 10w60 or Castrol edge 10w60 ?

Thanks for ardently reply
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Oil does often go black very quickly. It doesn't mean it's going off, it's normal.
Yes, I know this , just heard 10w60 is better for 2.0JTS and want to keep the engine more cleanning,
so want to change the oil again


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hard to believe something changed between the TS and JTS to require 10w-60 as being 'better'

if you understand what oil does, it's hard to believe thicker is ever 'better' in terms of cold start protection and flow to the bearings...

IMHO alfa upped it to 10w-60 purely for oil consumption issues... if yours does fine on 5w-40, i would stick with that.... (depending on your driving)

at the very least might like to go middle of the road with a 5 or 10w-50 if you are not satisfied with 10w-40
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hard to believe something changed between the TS and JTS to require 10w-60 as being 'better'

if you understand what oil does, it's hard to believe thicker is ever 'better' in terms of cold start protection and flow to the bearings...

IMHO alfa upped it to 10w-60 purely for oil consumption issues... if yours does fine on 5w-40, i would stick with that.... (depending on your driving)

at the very least might like to go middle of the road with a 5 or 10w-50 if you are not satisfied with 10w-40
So you mean that 10w60 could be better for the oil consumption issues?

Ivd used 5w40 for 2000kms, the oil level is still just a little bit under the max,
seems alright, not too much consumption...

5w40 is good enough, but just want to try some different oils ...

and the owner's manual said for JTS versions use only SAE 10w60 synthetic oil.

This seems another excuse pushing me to use 10w60...


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So you mean that 10w60 could be better for the oil consumption issues?

Ivd used 5w40 for 2000kms, the oil level is still just a little bit under the max,
seems alright, not too much consumption...

5w40 is good enough, but just want to try some different oils ...

and the owner's manual said for JTS versions use only SAE 10w60 synthetic oil.

This seems another excuse pushing me to use 10w60...


Cheers man (Im in WA )
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probably, but if you have low usage on 5w-40 u're probably one of the lucky ones... Over a large trip some people have reported a loss of around 1l of oil! which is obviously too much... U can easily see how a car can run too low on oil over a 6mo change period, and that *will* kill the engines.

JMO, but i believe alfa upped it to prevent this and to stop new costumers complaining that something is 'wrong' with rate of oil consumption.

But there are side effects, if you look at many engines, u can see really bad camshaft wear esp at cyl 1.... how much of this is caused by oil too thick?? We also see damaged bottom ends... how much of this is caused with engines running dry when cold and waiting too long for the oil to work??

see this excellent article if your are interested in which oil is best, how they work, and the type best used for your situation: FerrariChat.com - FAQ: Motor Oil Articles by Dr. Ali E. Haas (AEHaas)

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