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View Poll Results: Is it cool?
Sub Zero 4 21.05%
Cool 8 42.11%
Un-cool 4 21.05%
Seriously Un-cool 3 15.79%
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Morgan Plus 8

Super classy British sportscar with classic design.

The new ones arnt as agricultural as the old ones, no more wooden chassis here. Fitted with BMW's 4.8 V8 and thier 6 speed manual. 367bhp and 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

The paintwork is infinitely customisable and you can tailor the interior leather and piping to your own unique style.

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Great call. It's another hard one. I'm slightly predisposed against such anachronisms but it's unique and has changed with the times while retaining olde worlde character.

The modern V8 and two fingered V to the modern boring sports car offerings make it cool, I think. Morgan don't care if you think they're old-fashioned crap.

+ techno V8 in old man's clothing really has to be a blast
- it looks like a really old man's car

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Interesting.

First thing, it never did have a wooden chassis, it had a steel ladder chassis in the past and now has an aluminium one. Pretty sure the body is still built on an ash frame.

I like it lot but there's a hint of beardiness about it. I also find the modern wheels a tad incongruous. From that point of view I think I prefer the slightly more traditional look of the old Rover engined +8. That said, Morgan drivers generally seem keen to have the roof down, regardless of the weather, and look like they are enjoying every minute. Although it's very quick, it's not flashy, or vulgar and it doesn't suggest that you're lacking in the trouser department. I think it sneaks into cool.

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Facial hair and adenoidal. Even a pretty girl driving one would look a bit of a twit. Not cool.
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I think it is awful, and I would feel a right plank driving it.

Ok for beardie weirdies that need a performance upgrade from an MGB, but that is about that.
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I'm genuinely shocked, I thought everyone loved Morgan's... They are uber cool
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No they are not.


I think they are junk. And expensive junk at that.

The engine is a work of art, but the rest of it is an expensive antiquated design using primative construction methods that have no place in a car made these days.
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Facial hair and adenoidal. Even a pretty girl driving one would look a bit of a twit. Not cool.
it most definitely isn't a girl's car. She'd be interesting if she drove one though. Quite the opposite of an air-headed twit. I'd want to know why she chose this odd 4.5s car instead of something more "Essex".
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it most definitely isn't a girl's car. She'd be interesting if she drove one though. Quite the opposite of an air-headed twit. I'd want to know why she chose this odd 4.5s car instead of something more "Essex".
I actually know a blonde woman who drives a plus 4. She's in her 50s but her and her husband have owned a few of them. She occasionally parks it on the car park outside our ****ty concrete office block where it really brightens the place up.
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I think they are junk. And expensive junk at that.

They aren't junk. That's unfair. They are expensive at first sight but in depreciation terms they knock most similar priced "modern super tech" antiseptic sports cars into a cocked hat which ultimately makes them a better investment.
It looks primitive but it isn't really.
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I like the way that it has evolved massively under the skin whilst still looking very traditional on top. It's like the opposite of a Bristol where they slightly tarted up the outside but put the same antiquated **** underneath. In effect, you were paying 120,000 for car that looked vaguely modern but was from the late 50s. This looks like 1948 but is quite modern underneath.
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Some people don't see that. I don't want one personally but I'm not prejudiced against them. Having a unique identity is cool.

You see, its owners aren't that cool but they and the cars' personality is so at ease with itself that it couldn't give a **** that someone holding a bottle of Budweiser thinks it's a bit real ale. Irony.
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Is the 'Morgan cars are antiquated, they still use wood' thing one of the major "everybody knows" myths of motoring?

I know that Morgan maintain that the reason they always used wood, and the reason they still do, is because it is the best construction material for the use they put it to. Something about relative levels of flex and strength.

I wouldn't claim to know enough to say whether they're talking rubbish mind.
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I seem to recall reading that they do better in crash tests than you might expect. Can't remember where I read it though.
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Is the 'Morgan cars are antiquated, they still use wood' thing one of the major "everybody knows" myths of motoring?

I know that Morgan maintain that the reason they always used wood, and the reason they still do, is because it is the best construction material for the use they put it to. Something about relative levels of flex and strength.

I wouldn't claim to know enough to say whether they're talking rubbish mind.
If wood was so good for cars why don't other manufacturers use it?

Maybe the likes of Ferrari, and McLaren are missing a trick and wood is much better than Carbon Fibre.

Also it isn't any good if you live in an area full of Termites.
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Almost on the fence with this. Not quite there so it's uncool.
Morgan's are different and I like different but as a few have mentioned they come across as a bit nerdy and a little bit old man like.
I like them a bit but they have never been anywhere near my top ten. Wouldn't mind a ride in one though just to see if they are actually any good.
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If wood was so good for cars why don't other manufacturers use it?

Maybe the likes of Ferrari, and McLaren are missing a trick and wood is much better than Carbon Fibre.

Also it isn't any good if you live in an area full of Termites.
The Mosquito was reputedly a fine plane.
And radar proof too.
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Has anybody ever driven one? I have, and let me tell you their road holding on corners is excellent. Holds the road like sh*t to a blanket. Not sure it's cool though.
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Does this one even use wood other than on the dash?


Does it even matter if it does and if it isn't as strong as carbon fibre or as fast as a McLaren (though it may give the F1 car a run)? That all has F all to do with cool. I'm still not sure about this car as it happens.
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Does this one even use wood other than on the dash?


Does it even matter if it does and if it isn't as strong as carbon fibre or as fast as a McLaren (though it may give the F1 car a run)? That all has F all to do with cool. I'm still not sure about this car as it happens.
I wouldn't swear to it but I think the body is made the same way as they always have been.
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The wood is just the substructure for the bodies these days. The chassis is metal and the body is metal. They are bonded together.

The whole package is a handcrafted by a small team of people. That's cool enough in itself in a time of short-lived, characterless mass-produced grot.

It's still a surprisingly quick car. The newer Aero 8 is much lighter than the Z4 and M3 it shares the engine with and delivers almost supercar performance. Interesting little film on how they are built below:-

https://youtu.be/p4c9i250pc4
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I'm very happy to know that this sort of manufacturing is going on but I still don't want one or want to be seen in one. Thanks for posting up the video Jim.
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