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View Poll Results: Lightweight E-Type?
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Original production run in the 1960's of 18 lightweight E-Types - mostly designed for racing, Low drag 3.8 lite 300bhp. Only 12 of the 18 were built in the 60's, in 2014 Jaguar announced it would build the final 6 using the original un-used chassis numbers. They would be hand built to the same exacting standards the originals were.

Reported to cost over £1m now

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As long as you thrash the nads off it at every available opportunity, get it dirty, and bend it a bit to show that you're trying it's cool.
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Seriously uncool because it's a cynical money-making exercise. So you're giving them chassis numbers which were never used for the originals . . . how does that make them anything other than replicas?

"They would be hand built to the same exacting standards the originals were." I suspect the originals were built to normal 1960s standards, probably less exacting than road cars as they were built as a tool, not an investment.

In isolation the car is sub-zero; in context it's seriously uncool.
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Seriously uncool because it's a cynical money-making exercise. So you're giving them chassis numbers which were never used for the originals . . . how does that make them anything other than replicas?

"They would be hand built to the same exacting standards the originals were." I suspect the originals were built to normal 1960s standards, probably less exacting than road cars as they were built as a tool, not an investment.

In isolation the car is sub-zero; in context it's seriously uncool.
This. ^
I love E-Type's and they for me are one of the coolest. Not this regurgitation though and a £1m it really is vulgar.
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I love E-Type's and they for me are one of the coolest. Not this regurgitation though and a £1m it really is vulgar.
Surely if you were being vulgar you would buy an original for upwards of £5 million. As a money making exercise it's a pretty poor one for a company the size of Jaguar Land Rover. Pre-tax profits in 2014 were £2.5 billion.

I think of it more as Jaguar saying "This is how brilliant we can be when we really try". Much the same as the Veyron is for VAG.
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Surely if you were being vulgar you would buy an original for upwards of £5 million. As a money making exercise it's a pretty poor one for a company the size of Jaguar Land Rover. Pre-tax profits in 2014 were £2.5 billion.

I think of it more as Jaguar saying "This is how brilliant we can be when we really try". Much the same as the Veyron is for VAG.
Indeed, but that's original. Still a little vulgar mind.

Are there any E-type's worth that much?
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As long as you thrash the nads off it at every available opportunity, get it dirty, and bend it a bit to show that you're trying it's cool.
Correct! But if you treat it like most owners of rare, historically-important £1m cars do (i.e. leave it locked up in your mini museum), its coolness is diminished. My contentious 'unobtainable / undriveable museum piece rule' attempts to reflect this by dropping the car's grade from 'sub zero' to 'cool'.

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Seriously uncool because it's a cynical money-making exercise. So you're giving them chassis numbers which were never used for the originals . . . how does that make them anything other than replicas?
Because they're made by Jaguar as '60s-spec E-Types from the ground up.
If someone else made a '60s-spec E-Type from scratch, it'd be a reproduction.
If someone else adapted a different car (or made a custom car) to look like an E-Type, that'd be a replica.
If Jaguar made a new modern vehicle styled after the E-Type, that'd be a modern reinterpretation / a new car with retro styling inspired by the E-Type.
We're talking about Jaguar making more '60s-spec cars, so I'd call them E-Types but just not from the original production run.
I wonder whether such cars would be able to be registered for the road, and whether Jaguar and other manufacturers could do more of this..

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Correct! But if you treat it like most owners of rare, historically-important £1m cars do (i.e. leave it locked up in your mini museum), its coolness is diminished. My contentious 'unobtainable / undriveable museum piece rule' attempts to reflect this by dropping the car's grade from 'sub zero' to 'cool'.



Because they're made by Jaguar as '60s-spec E-Types from the ground up.
If someone else made a '60s-spec E-Type from scratch, it'd be a reproduction.
If someone else adapted a different car (or made a custom car) to look like an E-Type, that'd be a replica.
If Jaguar made a new modern vehicle styled after the E-Type, that'd be a modern reinterpretation / a new car with retro styling inspired by the E-Type.
We're talking about Jaguar making more '60s-spec cars, so I'd call them E-Types but just not from the original production run.
I wonder whether such cars would be able to be registered for the road, and whether Jaguar and other manufacturers could do more of this..
I don't think they are street legal. Over here we got a documentary about them and the inference was that they have selected customers who intend to use them, which I assumemeans race them. Another big thing in its favour is that Lord March and other assorted pompous arses hate them. March says you won't see them at Goodwood.
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Also I remember reading somewhere that Jaguar are doing a similar thing with some D-type racers... anyone know anymore about that?
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Got to see the "new" E Type at Jaguar at their Whitley facility as one of my family took us along on an open day. Beautiful car, there were two, one complete, sold car, which was on display with no touching signs all over it. The other was a chassis (I think with a bare shell) attached to a stand, which in un painted glory looked fantastic in a geeky engineering view. Very beautiful, but I'm not sure the bills add up. £1.6M rings a bell for some reason? No doubt it would end up a good investment though as long as you didn't break it.

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