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View Poll Results: Mobilised disabled people for over 50 yrs, courtesy of the NHS
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Cool 6 33.33%
Uncool 6 33.33%
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This one is really interesting

A 'mobility' premise with:
1WD
'wobble-slug' sliding door
1 rows of seats - sitting up to 1 adult, with room for a folded wheelchair.
Maximum speed, on 600cc models, reputedly 82mph.
Banned from British roads because of safety concerns.

What's not to like?


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Tricky one this.

Dangerous at any speed? Yes.
Iconic? Certainly.

And yet....there are two ways of looking at it, and it depends on your perspective. My own view is that this thing offered disabled people (many injured in the war) mobility that would have been impossible otherwise. Lives were changed for the better generally, and so I brand it cool. Every single Invacar was owned by the NHS and then leased to people, before motability was introduced and all the Invacars were scrapped.

I nearly swung the other way, which was to ask why disabled folk had to rely on such a woblling deathtrap - but I swung back after considering the gulf between 1948 invacar and 1948 car, for poor, working class people, was possibly not that great.

By 1977 it probably felt a bit different, perhaps. Maybe not.
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I think it's more important than cool to be honest but I agree with your thinking. If they were still around, the disabled could use them to get to their £2 an hour jobs created by Lord Freud.

Boring fact: A lot of them ended up in storage in a big warehouse in my home town of Heywood before they were scrapped. The story goes that there was a shed load of Morris Minors converted for disabled use in there too. I know the former to be true but am not so sure of the latter.
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I wonder where they had all disappeared to, i didnt know they were banned from the roads, cool though.
 
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When I saw one on the road as kid I never thought cool. Today though if I saw one... It's a borderline for sure but I just would not see it as cool.
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Is there anything below seriously uncool?


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The AC factory in Thames Ditton where the Cobra was born also made these .They had one for doing the errands down the road in Kingston Upon Thames. No parking problems for them.
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The epitome of why the UK "car" industry failed.

Churning out the same thing for 50 years with little or no
innovation, improvements or refinements.
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The epitome of why the UK "car" industry failed.

Churning out the same thing for 50 years with little or no
innovation, improvements or refinements.
I was thinking exactly this while reading SIF's impressive rationalising theorem.

A noble idea that the powers that be couldn't be arsed improving for half a century. The injured vets were cool and heroic for risking life and any remaining limbs in these ugly death traps. So the car- barely worthy of the name- is seriously uncool.
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I remember these from when I was a boy.

A bloke my dad worked with used to have one, and he had a mate who worked at AC who could supply knocked off paint and other parts.


In fact my dad had a Mk2 Cortina painted in that exact colour.


Sort of cool in an ironic/iconic way, although I could imagine it being really awful to drive.
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Hideously uncool.
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Think back to the 1950s. Who was mobile then? who had cars at all? working class people tended not to. Neither did disabled people. Disabled working class people were absolutely goosed. The nhs offered something

Freedom.
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Old Mr. Pollard WW1 vet, would lean on his window sill when I were a lad, back in the '40s.
He was given back some mobility having a wooden leg with a rubber ferrule on the end which fascinated us ragamuffins.

Things got much better as the NHS really got going to care for the WWII disabled in combat.
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Think back to before we invented the crutch, what had folk got? Just a wall they could lean against or a chair. Crutches gave them, freedom! Crutches are cool.

Think back to before we invented rubber condoms, what had folk got? Just a sheep intestine. In England we even took it out of the sheep. Sheep are cool.

Nope.
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punishing revisionist critique

you'd have had one in 1974, you old goat - admit it
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In 1974 I had green corduroy trousers, you sayin' they are too?
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Not baggy enough to stop me going frrrp-frriiiip-frrrp-frriiip wherever I did a-roam
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Well, we'll never truly know that, will we?
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I Forgot to mention that Keithy Boy.

Old Peg Leg Pollard,(not that he ever heard us call him that bless him: ) also had a wooden crutch with a leather pad at the top fixed with brass upholstery nails?

Thanks for reminding me of that fact.
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Think back to the 1950s. Who was mobile then? who had cars at all? working class people tended not to. Neither did disabled people. Disabled working class people were absolutely goosed. The nhs offered something

Freedom.
The thing was so uncool but it did just this.
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