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Flawed in many respects, but a prettier larger coupe you'd struggle to find.

It can come in many strange shades - purple is always a favourite. I'd much prefer if it came with frameless windows....but it's a beauty pretty much any way you look at it.

I'm not struck on the owners, mind.
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Deputy head teacher had one at school:

Otherwise it could have been cool.
(Although being a BL car doesn't help either.)
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Super cool to look at, sound great and even fun to drive if not difficult.
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Had one myself for years. The much maligned (original) engine was the most reliable part of it. Brilliant concept ruined by lousy production engineering and build quality.
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Great styling except from dead-on front, which lets the overall design down.

Mechanically the big issues are known.
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Flawed in many respects, but a prettier larger coupe you'd struggle to find.

It can come in many strange shades - purple is always a favourite. I'd much prefer if it came with frameless windows....but it's a beauty pretty much any way you look at it.

I'm not struck on the owners, mind.
You'll struggle to find many Coupe versions full stop!......

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Cloth cap, driving gloves. whispering ding dong to the fillies.
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Got one in the garage. Lovely car, lovely sound. Performance not that great for a 3 litre V8, but it's a cruiser really not a sports car.
Always get a smile from others when we're out in it.
At shows get lots of "experts" telling me about unreliability, overheating etc (bit like owning an Alfa in that respect)
But its now 40 years old and done 120k. Not bad for an "unreliable" car.
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Not sure what the mechanical issues are with a Stag, apart from owner neglect. The problem with that Triumph engine was one thing: Coolant. Keep an eye on the hoses and rad leaks they were fine.

I'm a huge Triumph head: I've had numerous, from the basic but fun Heralds to an early Dolomite 1854, to TR6 to Sprints. The Dollys had the same rep with its slant four engine, but mine never had a sneeze of a problem.

Like th Stag, prefer the TR6. Still super cool IMHO.
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The engineer responsible for the Stag roof went on to do this Opel-Corsa-A.com and the XJS Eventer estate...
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Could you do one on a TVR Cerbera, EP?
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The engineer responsible for the Stag roof went on to do this Opel-Corsa-A.com and the XJS Eventer estate...
Forgot how fugly those Novas were.
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I thought everybody realised at the time.
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Couldn't decide whether it was sub-zero or just cool, but because I like them an awful lot they are probably only cool .

I think the 'overheating' problem has been well and truly solved. Unfortunately I saw one on Fleabay recently with a Ford V6. I do recall it being a popular option in it's day.
I also think the odd one has had a Rover V8.
For me it would need to be original and probably yellow or red.

FWIW one Sunday morning many years back I went on the hunt for one, realised they were quite expensive (and should be, such a great British classic) and bought a cheap 916 Spider instead

I've also got a thing for TR7's. The V8's mainly.

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Couldn't decide whether it was sub-zero or just cool, but because I like them an awful lot they are probably only cool .

I think the 'overheating' problem has been well and truly solved. Unfortunately I saw one on Fleabay recently with a Ford V6. I do recall it being a popular option in it's day.
I also think the odd one has had a Rover V8.
For me it would need to be original and probably yellow or red.

FWIW one Sunday morning many years back I went on the hunt for one, realised they were quite expensive (and should be, such a great British classic) and bought a cheap 916 Spider instead

I've also got a thing for TR7's. The V8's mainly.
Back in the late 70s Tony Hart started up the 'Stag Owners' club. As a real Swarfega smelling engineer he designed and patented the Supergill radiator for the Stag. They worked a treat.

Unfortunately, most of the cars from that period had the engines swapped for Rover V8. If I had room I'd buy one in a heartbeat, with one caveat: It would have to have the original Triumph power unit.

As I mentioned in a previous post, only owners neglect that gave the Stag a bad name: A few simple checks every now and then and the original rad was fine.

FWIW the TR7 is 'orrible looking - always reminded me of a wedge of cheese.

Again, if I had room I'd love to track down a early Dolly 1850 (Not 'HL') model. It gave you 75% of the Sprint performance and nearly 50% of the running costs.

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The famous quote on the TR7 of course was when Giugiaro asked if it was the same on the other side too!
There is a hint of it in current Mercedes though. Harris Mann was right.
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The famous quote on the TR7 of course was when Giugiaro asked if it was the same on the other side too!
There is a hint of it in current Mercedes though. Harris Mann was right.
Triumph engineers were masters of their own downfall. If they actually worked rather than going on Strike they would have kept up the high standards of earlier BL Triumphs.

From 1976 onwards BL became a joke: They hadn't designed any new component. The TR7 engine had the Dolly 1850 lump, while the Dollys themselves only received head rests, manky black wheel trims and a 'HL' badge.

I had one of the last 50 production Sprints (1980 on a 'W' plate) and it had electronic ignition. My God it was a pain. In the end I had it converted back to a standard ignition.

Quality control... don't think it existed in Birmingham at the time.

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The engineer responsible for the Stag roof went on to do this Opel-Corsa-A.com and the XJS Eventer estate...

...just goes to prove everyone has a bad day now and then.
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Very cool, but the Mk2 Triumph 2500 looked almost the same and didn't have the engine issues, so that one would get my sub-zero rating in 2500S form instead of the Stag. The 2.5 engine sounded great too, making that silky, deep woofle only a straight 6 can on acceleration. But of course like all Leylands they quickly developed a swimming pool in the footwells.

BTW I wonder where all these original Stag engines came from? Back in the 80s I never saw one advertised without a Ford V6 under the bonnet...
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Very cool, but the Mk2 Triumph 2500 looked almost the same and didn't have the engine issues, so that one would get my sub-zero rating in 2500S form instead of the Stag. The 2.5 engine sounded great too, making that silky, deep woofle only a straight 6 can on acceleration. But of course like all Leylands they quickly developed a swimming pool in the footwells.

BTW I wonder where all these original Stag engines came from? Back in the 80s I never saw one advertised without a Ford V6 under the bonnet...
Audi A4, VW Passat and now my 159 on very wet days does just that!
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Audi A4, VW Passat and now my 159 on very wet days does just that!
1996-2005 Type B5 Passat / A4 I presume, they were infamous for shorting out their ecus when they flooded too, so that's one better than BL!

But of course they're still "ultra reliable"
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Back in the late 70s Tony Hart started up the 'Stag Owners' club. As a real Swarfega smelling engineer he designed and patented the Supergill radiator for the Stag. They worked a treat.

Unfortunately, most of the cars from that period had the engines swapped for Rover V8. If I had room I'd buy one in a heartbeat, with one caveat: It would have to have the original Triumph power unit.

As I mentioned in a previous post, only owners neglect that gave the Stag a bad name: A few simple checks every now and then and the original rad was fine.
Think it was a bit more serious than that with the Stag v8 - besides the rad issue there were tales of head gasket failure caused by weirdly placed studs and the overly-long timing chains stretching / snapping at low mileages. So more like the NSU RO-80 than an Alfa - it had engine design flaws that not even the best manufacturing processes / maintenance could fix, and then of course you've got to add in the usual BL carelessness like not checking the heads weren't porous before fitting, incorrectly machined waterways, not cleaning casting sand out properly, etc, etc...

The only real solution is a complete engine rebuild using the retro-fixes the Stag enthusiasts came up with, which BL never got round to doing. Never has a car owed a greater debt to it's owners clubs than the Stag.

Edit: Mmm, just imagine the Stag with a 3.0 Busso under the bonnet

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