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How do I get rid of these white spots ?

I just picked up my new car a few weeks ago and waxed and polished it recently. But I cant get these white spots off the top surface of the car. In strong sunlight on a black car you can see all the imperfections like these white spots, swirl marks, stains and what not which will not come out with clay, polish or wax.

Does anyone have any suggestions ? The white spots look like dried tree sap or so, and some are stone chips which I guess need a touch up. I spoke to a professional detailer and he said I need a professional clay not the meguiars clay I normally use.

Apart from taking it to a professional detailer and spending a lot of money what can I do? I dont have a machine polisher either.

Of course the photos dont show how bad it is but just imagine it much worse than the photos

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First of all you say a NEW CAR!!! **** it, I cannot believe that you can have that sort of contamination already. It looks like it could be industrial fallout or some sort of etching but it is difficult to see in the pic.

If the white spots are raised (in other words you can feel them standing proud of the surface) then you can try clay as it might be a bonded contaminant of some kind. But my guess is that it is etched into the surface and needs to be corrected professionally. I wonder why the detailer you spoke to did not suggest that you try correcting a panel (say the roof) with a machine. It is not a big deal and is done all the time. You don't have a machine but he will and you will soon see what effect it is having.

Have you spoken to the dealers who delivered the car to you? Stone chips and marks like this are unacceptable on a "new" car.
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First of all you say a NEW CAR!!! **** it, I cannot believe that you can have that sort of contamination already. It looks like it could be industrial fallout or some sort of etching but it is difficult to see in the pic.

If the white spots are raised (in other words you can feel them standing proud of the surface) then you can try clay as it might be a bonded contaminant of some kind. But my guess is that it is etched into the surface and needs to be corrected professionally. I wonder why the detailer you spoke to did not suggest that you try correcting a panel (say the roof) with a machine. It is not a big deal and is done all the time. You don't have a machine but he will and you will soon see what effect it is having.

Have you spoken to the dealers who delivered the car to you? Stone chips and marks like this are unacceptable on a "new" car.
Oh No no no no - Not Brand new car ! I mean new as in new second hand car. I sold my GTV TS and bought a GTV V6 recently - Sorry !

Yeah the detailer did say try a machine but I dont have a machine. What I might try is the clay. The white spots are definetly standing outside of the paintwork. Also some are inside the paintwork. I guess they would be stone ships wouldnt they.
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Before machine polishing I would try
1) Soaking them in a warm mixture of APC at 4:1 and neat
2) Mild clay bay
3) Finish Kare decontamination kit
4) Aggressive clay, this usually marrs the paint and may need machine polishing afterwards.

You really don't want to machine polish bonded contaminants off your paint becuase they will get stuck to the bottom of your polishing pads and scratch your paint.
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Before machine polishing I would try
1) Soaking them in a warm mixture of APC at 4:1 and neat
2) Mild clay bay
3) Finish Kare decontamination kit
4) Aggressive clay, this usually marrs the paint and may need machine polishing afterwards.

You really don't want to machine polish bonded contaminants off your paint becuase they will get stuck to the bottom of your polishing pads and scratch your paint.
what is APC at 4:1 and neat ?
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APC = All Purpose Cleaner

4:1 = the dilution ratio of APC:water. Normally one would use APC at 1:10 meaning one part APC to ten parts water.

If 10 500RPM above means 4 parts APC to 1 part water then you may as well use it neat. I think that is a bit too strong. Rather start off mild and work up
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4 parts APC to 1 part water then you may as well use it neat. I think that is a bit too strong. Rather start off mild and work up
It is strong but it needs to be strong to remove sap and grease etc, i use it at 10:1 for general cleaning

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I just noticed you're in Australia, you won't need to use warm APC, I only said to use warm to prevent freezing but that shouldn't be a problem with your mixed up seasons.
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General Cleaning = 1:10
Heavy Soiling = 1:4

The first number represents the product and the second is the water
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Ok thanks guys for that !

Do you have any brands for APC? Is Sonax cleaner an APC? My brother goes on about the Sonax alot.

Yeah I live in Sydney Australia with some 40 Deg C days Max - so no problem with freezing over here
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Ok thanks guys for that !

Do you have any brands for APC? Is Sonax cleaner an APC? My brother goes on about the Sonax alot.

Yeah I live in Sydney Australia with some 40 Deg C days Max - so no problem with freezing over here
I never heard of then tbh, they aren't a big brand in the UK. I had to google that, their fallout remover seems like an interesting product. I use Meguiars apc, there are loads of brands available. Many people use Tesco Daisy, it's good but I hate the lemony (I think ) smell. Basically they're household cleaners, good at removing traffic film, grease and cleaning carpets etc.
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Ok thanks for that ! I havent heard of Sonax either. Might try the Meguiars
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Yes, Meguiars APC is a very well known brand and very good quality.

If you go into any hardware or supermarket you are sure to find an APC on the shelves either in the household cleaning section or the motoring products.

Here is SA we have Shield Blade APC which is a very good and cheaply priced product compared to Meguiars.

BTW Sonax is a brand of detailing products that have been around for ages (German I think?) They have recently relaunched their brand here and have an extensive range.

Their wheel cleaner is the only one I will let near my alloys!
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Yes, Meguiars APC is a very well known brand and very good quality.

If you go into any hardware or supermarket you are sure to find an APC on the shelves either in the household cleaning section or the motoring products.

Here is SA we have Shield Blade APC which is a very good and cheaply priced product compared to Meguiars.

BTW Sonax is a brand of detailing products that have been around for ages (German I think?) They have recently relaunched their brand here and have an extensive range.

Their wheel cleaner is the only one I will let near my alloys!
Thats an amazing looking engine ! Do you have any larger photos of it ?

It made me clean my engine today !
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How did you chrome the cam ? is it chrome or polish?
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Chrome plated. Polishing doesn't work.
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Amazing ! Ive seen it in google images quite a few times now
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