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Thumbs Up For Any First-Timers Sceptical About Using Clay...

My 147 TI spent the first three years of it's life parked under trees in the leafy suburbs before I acquired it. After washing it for the first time the other week it was still covered in tree sap spots and the paintwork was a rough as a badger's 4rse to the touch.

I have never used detailing clay before and WOW! am I impressed with the results. Anyone out there who is wondering if it's worth the time, effort and money take it from me (a bloke who comes from the last of the t-cut and turtle wax in a tin generation) it's more than worth it.

I used Meguiars Smooth Surface Clay Kit as it came with everything you'll need but I'm sure other detailing clays do the trick. Half a bar did the entire car and the clay went from brilliant white to gungy green and I had glass-smooth paintwork by the time I had finished. Another couple of washes and a good buff up the transformation is complete.

Give it a go - it's not difficult and the results are worth the effort
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Never heard of it before........my partners car is always parked under trees and the spring time is awful, sap everywhere. I'll tell the guy over the road too who washes his and his girlfriends car at least twice a week!!
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I agree, it is defo worth it. £20ish for a kit? I'm still on my first clay bar after one use. A lot more fun than polishing and waxing
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I have never used it myself.

My GTV is already glass smooth though, so for the time being it is OK.
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Check out AG's new surface detailing clay kit. Very good value and nicely presented too.
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I agree, it is defo worth it. £20ish for a kit? I'm still on my first clay bar after one use. A lot more fun than polishing and waxing
Yeah, I reckon that the 1 1/2 bars left will last me a long time but that initial going-over killed the clay and turned it snot-green
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Will last you a good 2 years if you do it every 6 months, keep the clay bar in its case. I might be making the second bit up but im sure I read that tip somewhere on the cleanyourcar forum.

If anyone hasn't clayed their car, i would recommend you do it , even brand new cars pick up cr*p
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i clayed my 156 yesterday, even though the bodywork is nice and smooth this gets rid of all the muck and leaves it smoother still...

after claying it don't forget to polish it so to protect the bodywork
 
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after claying it don't forget to polish it so to protect the bodywork
Wax it you mean.. (since we're in the Detailing forum)


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I used the clay for the first time a few weeks ago and was amazed at how it picked the crap off the car..... it was pretty good anyway bt it the difference was amazing, you could feel the clay working especially round the bottom of the doors, followed it with aome AG super resin and some R22 wax, its like glass now...... should i put some AG Gold on top of the wax or before by the way? or not bother?
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This polish, wax etc confuses me.

Right here with me I have a bottle of "Wax Polish"

I presume that does both?
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This polish, wax etc confuses me.

Right here with me I have a bottle of "Wax Polish"

I presume that does both?
never come across wax polish, your probably better of getting separate polish and wax so they actually do their job in cleaning and protecting
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Most off the shelf waxes are also a polish.

Ones I have used..

Simoniz Max wax,
Turtle wax colour magic,
Turtle wax platinum car wax.

All have worked pretty well for me. The platinum car wax especially is excellent IMO.
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oh I see, i use Auto glym SRP and aqua wax and they work great for me
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Agree claying is an essential part of getting a car clean.

Polishes are a mild abrasive and will polish paintwork but offer no protection.
Waxes are there to protect the paint and keep it shiny.

I'm using AG paint renovator followed by AG SRP to polish my 146, then protecting it with AG HD Wax.
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So where in the process would you use AG Extra Gloss Protection?

In between polish and wax????
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So where in the process would you use AG Extra Gloss Protection?

In between polish and wax????
Sorry don't know the answer to that one, would definatly be after polish but not sure if it's before or after wax.

I find it to be a minefield, just when I think it's all clear in my head I read/hear of something else to enhance the process.
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Most off the shelf waxes are also a polish.

Ones I have used..

Simoniz Max wax,
Turtle wax colour magic,
Turtle wax platinum car wax.

All have worked pretty well for me. The platinum car wax especially is excellent IMO.
i've got some zymol cleanerwax. does the same thing. fills in , polishes and then a spray of water sets it. quite good stuff, smells nice. wouldn't pay loads for it mind.
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So where in the process would you use AG Extra Gloss Protection?

In between polish and wax????
The product is a sealant which is a synthetic wax. Very durable but generally dont give the warm finish of a wax. Most sealants dont sit well on wax or even eat into them to adhere to the paint surface. The same cant be said vice versa so if you wanna use all 3 polish first, EGP then you can wax over the top but that aint really neccesary unless like most of us, you have a detailing problem

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never come across wax polish, your probably better of getting separate polish and wax so they actually do their job in cleaning and protecting
These products are classed as AIO mate, All In Ones. There for people who dont want to spend hours doing each process seperately and are good but not quite as good as the seperate products. Abit like a midi system aint as good as seperates.
There are some great ones out there including Dodo Juice Need For Speed, Zymol Cleaner Wax which may be the original and one called CarLack NSC which is actually sealant based as opposed to wax.
AG SRP is actually one but lacks the durability and is best off topped with a wax or sealant, infact EGP would be ideal as theyre designed to work together i would imagine.



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thanks for clearing that up giz, got abit baffled.. Iv read about dodo need for speed though.. sounds good for quick washes
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I feel like a slob compared to you guys.........gonna get my bucket n sponge out right now and give my lovely zoe a wash n brush-up. What advice do you have about hood cleaning kits?
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sponge? don't touch your car with a sponge! lol
Get a wash mitt
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BUCKET? You mean two buckets
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OMG!!!!!!!!! What DID I say????????
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