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Am i right in thinking ?

Am i right in thinking if i clay bar a car i shouldnt need to machine polish the paint work ?????


Atempting my dad very neglected C32 amg when i say neglected i mean it i really dont think its been polished since 2004 when it was new !

and we own a body shop and he parks it near the spray booth extraction god knows why !!???!!!

so what was once was a well respected car now looks like a gypo wagon and the fact he mite be getting new car soon mite mean i have the keys in posesion soon i thought i give it the works life shine and all that !
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No.

Clay removes surface contamination (stuff stuck to the paint).

Polishing removes swirls and other paint defects (damage to the paint).


In theory, if you polish it you shouldn't need to clay it.. but not the other way round.



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i thought clay bars mite have some fine compound in them no probs ill do both polishing overspray off is a mission so il clay it wash buff it then start with the protection ! im not fussed he is paying me 100 for the job haha not including the inside !
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You're taking money off your pa' to clean his motor..?



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too right i do work for him full time he is paying me overtime to work on sunday to clean his motor so he can impress his ukrianian wife
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Ralf is too right. A common misconception.

Claying removes bonded contaminants but if anything, can cause minor marring of the paintwork. Your car will require polishing to restore the shine.

Then waxing to protect the finish.
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Claying preps the surface to remove the contaminents that washing and polishing won't remove. If you want to restore the car to fully glory you should follow a few simple steps

Wash
Clay
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too right i do work for him full time he is paying me overtime to work on sunday to clean his motor so he can impress his ukrianian wife

Quite right too!


You could still bung him a freebie though, if it's gonna contribute to him getting more nookie!


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damm blokes gets more nookie than and better looking women than me ! so jealousy say charge him lol

its come out dam nice

Washed
clayed
Washed
Machine Buff Twice
Washed
Pre Wax Oil
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Pre Glaze
Glaze
Wax

Post some before afters later
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Please will you elaborate on what you mean by "pre wax oil"

Never heard of this?
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Swissol Pre wax oil cleaner fluid

the main thing it does is give the paint much needed oils to norish the paint where its gone brittle and dry also it removes any old polish like polish left in trims and grooves

its good stuff makes the paint feel really smooth

i brought a swissol now called swissvax cleaning pack for bout 300 couple of years ago and never got round to using it all now i have a black car all these little things make the differance
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Just remember the top clear lacquer that's catalyst activated over the top of water based flat colour coats, is pretty thin? So too much abrasive polishing either using hand or machine methods and it'll become worn out.
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Using a Dual Action machine or by hand it is almost impossible to strike through clear coat. On the other hand using a rotary machine requires caution and is not recommended for the uninitiated.
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Using a Dual Action machine or by hand it is almost impossible to strike through clear coat. On the other hand using a rotary machine requires caution and is not recommended for the uninitiated.
Im thinking Lime Prime Lite would be similar to the pre wax oil mentioned as thats a pre wax cleanser that removes products and cleanses paint before waxing. I went down to North East Detailing today and bought the various pads for my G220 amongst other things and had a go of a flex DA machine. Pretty much best machine you can get and theyre around 400! I did a pretty good job i reckon, i was using 3M pads and a swirl removing 3m polish called ultrafina SE. 40! The bonnet was covered in overspray and tar spots and we were given some poorboys clay to get it off before polishing and i was blown away at how good it brought the surface up! I wouldve tried the Flex rotary but my friend needed to get back Great company for letting you test stuff!



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