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Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

Hi all, im the proud owner of a MiTo 155TB Veloce in solid black. Thing is as mentioned its solid black and a nightmare to keep clean! I did buy the suparguard kit with the car and have washed it a few times with the shampoo in the kit. yesterday after washing i dried it off then applied the aftercare cream. It looks lovely but from certain angles it looks smudgey. I think i put too much on and the sun came out after i had done one side so it seemed to be a mare getting it back off. What i want to know is how do you guys rate the stuff, how often do i need to apply the cream and if the creams on what are the steps after that? Can i just shampoo and chamois in the following weeks? The worst thing is where i work theres waste land and the car is constantly caked with a layer of fine dust. I had it looking spiffing yesterday then today its covered again!
In the past ive used AG SRP and found it great so im considering getting some more of that. I still have all of the other AG products such as the glass cleaner etc.
Ive also ordered some of the Jofs carnuba wax mentioned in this section from ebay.
Am i right in thinking the Wax goes on after the AG SRP or is it an alternative?
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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

In a word, Aquawax. Check out my sticky thread above

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Aquawax is just top doller!!!!!

I do find that AG Ultra Deep Shine brings up a nice shine BUT AG HD Wax is also good


On a different note, I have some Dodo Juice products turning up soon so i'll post what they are like!!!
 
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In a word, Aquawax. Check out my sticky thread above
Thanks, i'll get a read asap!
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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

Mrs MiTo's other half GTLeigh has a black MiTo and will vouch for AG's Aquawax and my cleaning routine
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your cleaning tips are the best SR. Need your help though fella!
 
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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

What do you think of the Superguard stuff then? Has anyone else used it? I get the feeling you guys dont rate it as i havnt seen it mentioned.
Rosso, im gonna give it a proper read tomorrow, ive been getting my COD fix on Live 2night lol
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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

Congrats on the MiTo.

The biggest problem you are going to have with it being black is the dreaded SWIRLS. You also mention that you work in an area which deposits large amounts of dust onto the bodywork.

Thus, at this stage of your car's life, the most important thing you have to sort out is your washing regime, not what kind of wax you apply.

The biggest cause of swirls and therefore unhappiness by countless owners of black cars is swirls induced while washing and drying their cars. These are caused by countless specks of abrasive dust being wiped into the surface while washing and drying.

A few tips:

1. Don't blast your paintwork with a high pressure hose. It serves no purpose and will do more harm than good. Rather give it a light rinse to soften the dirt and wash some of it off.
2. Use a good quality car shampoo (not dishwashing liquid)
3. Do not use a sponge or chamois (especially the latter!!) Buy a microfibre or lambswool wash mitt.
4. Use the two bucket method - one bucket for the soapy wash solution and another to rinse off your mitt between applications.
5. Dry your car using a microfibre towel - again do NOT use a chamois.
6. Wash your car often - Like every week!!
7. Apply a good quality Carnauba Wax four times a year. I cannot comment about the kit you were given with the car but if it was provided by the stealers then its probably cr*p.

Lastly, having bought a brand new car (YOU LUCKY CHAP) you have a clean palette (canvass?), so to speak, so you have the perfect opportunity to start off with a pristine car and keep it that way.

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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

If you have some Supaguard stuff then carry on using it until it runs out. Probably it'll last a month before it needs re-doing so wash it as normal in between.

The AG SRP is mildly abrasive so don't beat the paint up too much when you apply it.. just use a light pressure as the paint is new so shouldn't need buffing too much. The SRP should just prepare the surface for the wax coat.

Once you're done and the AG has been buffed off, stick your wax on. Wax should be the last layer... writing of which, you can apply the wax in layers (5 to 7 seems to be the maximum benefit). Apply-dry-buff-repeat until you stop seeing an improvement!


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The washing tips are very valid to avoid the swirls. Again, my sticky thread covers this. Polishes are a personal choice and Aquawax is perfect for a new car as it non abrasive. Invest in some decent buckets and products. A worthwhile pretty much one off charge

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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

And whilst washing always use your microfibre or wool was mitt in a linear direction -in the direction of the body of the car. i.e. do not rotate the mitt in a circular motion on the car.
Same thing for your microfibre drying towel.


and after initially hosing down the car, a detergent Foam gun is very useful if the car is very dirty due to the 'cow crap' covered UK roads.....
The idea behind a foam gun is to minimize the amount of rubbing and scrubbing necessary to clean the vehicle by pre-soaking it with frothy foam.The foam starts loosening and lubricating the paint immediately. As you work your way down and around the vehicle with a mitt or sponge, you don’t have to use as much force to remove dirt and debris. It’s already loose and just needs slight agitation to release it from the paint surface.

Mor info on using a foam gun
http://www.autogeek.net/wohagafofogu.html




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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

wash it with shampoo, polish it i use Mcguires then use canuba wax
always looks fantastic.
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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

Wow, my heads spinning now Thanks for all of the tips and i'll let you guys know how i get on. Can i just ask that if i buy the HD Wax how often do you guys use that even if you wash every week?

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Wow, my heads spinning now Thanks for all of the tips and i'll let you guys know how i get on. Can i just ask that if i buy the HD Wax how often do you guys use that even if you wash every week?
Once a quarter with the likes of HD as Aquawax after each wash keeps it well protected & gleaming
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Once a quarter with the likes of HD as Aquawax after each wash keeps it well protected & gleaming
Cool, im just pricing up all of this stuff, my lass will have a heart attack! The superguard stuff cost a small fortune aswell. The pack contains stuff likewheel cleaner and protector, bird shat nuetraliser etc.
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Re: Cleaning & Polishing Advice.

Halfords are doing 3 for 2 at the mo so ive gave my wife a list for town 2mrw
The kit with SRP, Shampoo Conditioner & Sponge £12.99
Aqua Wax with Cloth £12.99
Megiuars Microfibre Wash Mitt £10.99 (free)

I'll get the other microfibre cloths next time, i wouldnt want to be killed lol
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Sponges are a massive no no! Tesco finest microfiber wash mitts (brown ones) are what you need
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Sponges are a massive no no! Tesco finest microfiber wash mitts (brown ones) are what you need
I am gettin the wash mitt chief, the sponge just comes in the other kit. HAving said that maybe i could use the money to get sumic else and get the wash mitts from tesco or do tesco sell good micro fibre cloths?
Im just trying to maximise the 3 for 2 offer if you know what i mean.
How much is the mitt at tesco?

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About £3. They do a nice finest peach skin polishing cloth twin pack too.
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Youve gotta love Tescos finest range eh rosso. Like i said i wanna maximise the 3 for 2 thingymbob and try and get 3 items of similar value. So i'll get either the mitt from halfords or tesco and then the Microfibres from the other if tha makes sense. This car has drove me crazy, cant believe im spending this amount of money on this stuff lol. Shows i love it though lol
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my mate was telling me dunelms do microfibre cloths for a quid.
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Keep that - very very good..
What, the shat or neutraliser?
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Use Turtlewax, good stuff.
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Well guys, ive followed rossos advice and got some gear ready for the big clean and polish/wax etc. Ive bought the AG pack with shampoo conditioner and SRP, Aqua Wax and a Megiuars water magnet microfibre drying towel. Then from tesco i got the pro wash mit, exterior MF cloths, interior MF peach cloths (both mauve and white 2 packs) and a blue MF cleaning cloth. My main problem is at the mo i dont have a bloody water outlet in the garden! The pipe burst in the winter but im getting that sorted next friday. I was thinking of going to my local carwash where they have 5 jetwash booths where you choose what you want to use and for how long. If i spray down the car 1st with the foam (50/50 wax and water) then jet it from afar then move the car over and to an open area, wash it with the mit. Then move it back, rinse and then aqua wax do you think that would work lol. Maybe i should just wait a week. There is a good place right along my road who hand washed my car the other week and made a good job so i could get them to wash it then give them my cloths to dry rather than the chamois they use then bring it home and SRP it instead of aquawax or even aquawax it there before i leave. Rosso, i take it you SRP and aquawax alternatlively every few months?
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About £3. They do a nice finest peach skin polishing cloth twin pack too.
Do you (personally) use them on the outside also mate?

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