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Bonnet Damage - Your Opinions

Hello Alfa people,

A little help if you don't mind. The bonnet of my 147 has a bit of damage. I think it's caused by bird crap being left on for too long. It was like this before I purchased it.

The dealer had the chips filled, which was fine (but far from perfect) however over time the majority of the touch-up has fallen out. See below.









I can't seem to get the pictures to imbed, but click above to see the damage.

Anyone now if its an easy (chipsaway or something like that) fix? Or do we think it a bonnet respray job?

Its not that bad, but its annoying and i want it fixed.

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Re: Bonnet Damage - Your Opinions

Need the bonnet re-coating imo, as local spot repairs will always be detectable unfortunately.:
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Re: Bonnet Damage - Your Opinions

Got the same problem on my GTA The previous owner had not wiped off the bird plop and as a result I have it on my roof and on my f/n/s wing. Not that bad but bad enough, always wipe off the bird plop!!!!
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thats gone through to the primer so its respray time im afriad
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Rather bird poop than 1lb pine cones.

I've had my bonnet resprayed twice.


Is that meant to be red?
 
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Rather bird poop than 1lb pine cones.

I've had my bonnet resprayed twice.


Is that meant to be red?
Pine cones are bad!

Think its this colour
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I have Autoglym Bird Dropping Wipes in my glovebox ...



As above, looks to be a respray jobby.
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I have Autoglym Bird Dropping Wipes in my glovebox ...



As above, looks to be a respray jobby.
Where did you get them from James?
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Where did you get them from James?
I have my sources ...

No I bought them originally from a small independent car maintenance place last year when visiting a friend, bought a couple of packets as I'd never seen them anywhere else but I just looked on Halfords website and they list them ... I best look harder!

Autoglym Bird Dropping Car Wipes from Halfords Price 4.99 3 For 2 On ALL Car Cleaning Products

They're great to have to hand though, but Jim as we wrote yesterday they really do just give more ammunition for Non-Believers to take the p*ss!!

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I have my sources ...

No I bought them originally from a small independent car maintenance place last year when visiting a friend, bought a couple of packets as I'd never seen them anywhere else but I just looked on Halfords website and they list them ... I best look harder!

Autoglym Bird Dropping Car Wipes from Halfords Price 4.99 3 For 2 On ALL Car Cleaning Products

They're great to have to hand though, but Jim as we wrote yesterday they really do just give more ammunition for Non-Believers to take the p*ss!!

Thanks for that mate I will get myself some

As for the haters FCUK EM!! :birdie:

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Re: Bonnet Damage - Your Opinions

i got some of those a week ago.
thought it'd be handy for when you're not near a tap
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Re: Bonnet Damage - Your Opinions

I thought as much, thanks for yor input.

Its a bit of a pain, other than that the paintwork is in good nick. well except all the chips its picked up since I've had it... damn stones!

It looked OK (I guess) when it was touched up, it was noticable but no where near as bad as it looks at the moment.

Nope not red, its called Pergusa Orange. Like the one GTA Jim linked to.

I'm asuming the birds were responsible, I bought it like that. I tend to wipe it off as soon as I notice. I seem to be in the local birds favoured flight path so it happens a lot!

Anyone know how much a bonnet respray is likely to cost? I know it will vary from bodyshop to bodyshop but a rough ballpark figure?
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Re: Bonnet Damage - Your Opinions

It's really difficult to see from those photos (what an unusual colour BTW)

Usually minor etching from bird droppings can be corrected out either professionally or even by yourself using scratch X or some such product. But if this has gone through the clearcoat and worse still through the paint then there is nought you can do and a respray is in order.

Incidentally, in addition to removing the offending poop in good time, damage like this can also be prevented by regular application of a good quality wax or sealer. Prevention is better than cure.
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Dont know about respray price mate but about the bird plop, its worse when the berries are about because they make it more acidic so be warned
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Bonnet respray here is about €250
 
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It's really difficult to see from those photos (what an unusual colour BTW)

Usually minor etching from bird droppings can be corrected out either professionally or even by yourself using scratch X or some such product. But if this has gone through the clearcoat and worse still through the paint then there is nought you can do and a respray is in order.

Incidentally, in addition to removing the offending poop in good time, damage like this can also be prevented by regular application of a good quality wax or sealer. Prevention is better than cure.
It is quite difficult to tell from the photos, if anything it accentuates the damage. Its an area about 2cm square (if that). Within that there a load of cracks for want of a better word, they are through the paint.
Annoyingly its slap bang in the middle at the top of the bonnet, so it is fairly noticeable.

Yeah it is an unusual colour, not to everyone's taste but i like it. Its nothing if not distinctive.
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Re: Bonnet Damage - Your Opinions

Unless you want to go down the respray route and potentially get into paint match issues I'd recommend just buying some touchup and building them up to restore the colour. Bit of 2000 grit to flat it off and then polish. Never be perfect but probably better than the cost and hassle of respraying the entire bonnet.
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Unless you want to go down the respray route and potentially get into paint match issues I'd recommend just buying some touchup and building them up to restore the colour. Bit of 2000 grit to flat it off and then polish. Never be perfect but probably better than the cost and hassle of respraying the entire bonnet.
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Quick Whack over with a DA sander, spot stopper, local primer filler, wet flat on trestles, shut the garage door, after flooding the floor with water, out with the Binks Barracuda one coat straight, one cross coat, then a straight wet on wet, let it flash off, then couple of coats of clear? Only Joking,: Where's old panel man Jon Boy, I miss him.: PS If you flat it down yourself, 'Pete' the painter wouldn't charge that much to respray it. Just a thought.
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A quick blow job on the bonnet must be the best way to go.. paint match issues or not. It'll look miles better than the nicks and knacks.


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Quick Whack over with a DA sander, spot stopper, local primer filler, wet flat on trestles, shut the garage door, after flooding the floor with water, out with the Binks Barracuda one coat straight, one cross coat, then a straight wet on wet, let it flash off, then couple of coats of clear? Only Joking,:
Eh?

Well isn't this a friendly place? I wasn't expecting this many replies!

Spraying probably would be better, not sure its worth it in terms of cost though.

I may give touching it up a go and if I mess it up I could always get it sprayed afterwards.
I'll have to get some quotes I think, and make a decision from there.
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Quick Whack over with a DA sander, spot stopper, local primer filler, wet flat on trestles, shut the garage door, after flooding the floor with water, out with the Binks Barracuda one coat straight, one cross coat, then a straight wet on wet, let it flash off, then couple of coats of clear? Only Joking,: Where's old panel man Jon Boy, I miss him.: PS If you flat it down yourself, 'Pete' the painter wouldn't charge that much to respray it. Just a thought.
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Well... If anyones interested.

I took advantage of the weekends nice weather to tend to the damage.

I got a touch up kit from paints4u.com (or something like that) and gave it a bash.

It was fairly successful, You can tell somethings not quite right but it looks much better.

It depends which way the light hits it as to how noticable it is now.
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Well... If anyones interested.

I took advantage of the weekends nice weather to tend to the damage.

I got a touch up kit from paints4u.com (or something like that) and gave it a bash.

It was fairly successful, You can tell somethings not quite right but it looks much better.

It depends which way the light hits it as to how noticable it is now.


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I have Autoglym Bird Dropping Wipes in my glovebox ... .
surley the bird will be to far away by the time you get your wipes out
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