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Hi everyone,

I have had a red 147 for about a month now, before that I owned a puegeot 307 which I had for close to two years. When I bought that car the dealer told me as it had just been detailed to use warm water and a small amount of detergent when washing it.

Since then it all I have used, but now that I have my Alfa I was thinking could using detergent be bad for the paint work? or would using a proper car wash liquid be giving my paint some sort of protection?

The paint work is in really good condition and doesn't look in need of any sort of polish. Seeing as I live in a part of Australia that can get some really hot weather and I don't have a garage I want to do all I can to protect the paint work.

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Use a proper car wash liquid.
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I'd use car shampoo, and regular polishing.
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If you dont want to polish and wax your car, at least use a car wash & wax all in one product, it's not as good as a full polish & wax but is miles better than any household detergent
 
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... what they said.

(Would you wash your dishes using a car shampoo?)
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Dishwashing detrgnts contain salt. So every time you was the car, it goes in to every nook and crany. Stand back and watch the care rust away.

Use good car washing stuff.
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What they all said. The dealer is a plonker. Whats new!

The dishwashing liquid will strip off any wax protection which the car has on it leaving the paintwork vulnerable to the elements.

Use a good quality car shampoo and wash often.

We both live in hot climates so you need to give your car's paintwork as much protection as possible especially as it is not kept in a garage.

Get some form of window shade to protect the dashboard from the UV rays.
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OMG! are you trying to give SR a heart attack?
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Re: cleaning with dishwashing detergent

Thanks everyone for the replies, I never realised detergent had salt in it! and no I wouldn't wash dishes with car wash .

I have no problem with washing my car properly and always do it by hand, I have been using the AutoGlym product on my leather after reading its used by a lot of guys on here, so I'll buy some of there car wash liquid and polish and start using that from now on!

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You're most welcome.
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Re: cleaning with dishwashing detergent

samfromaus, enjoy your car, mate.

Don't mean to be pedantic but it's WAX you need mate not polish!!
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Alfa Red? Loads of TLC, auto-shampoo and a decent polish/wax, and as much garage/shade parking that's available.:
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I'd use car shampoo, and regular polishing.
Agreed, but polish is no good unless you use wax afrerwards.
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The generalised term polish, as has been used for decades. If you mean wax protection? Bee's wax, paraffin wax??? or are you talking about the general labels attached on 'Wax' polish products?:
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Beeswax - obviously
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If you ever used the Real Deal Simoniz wax paste, Geez! now you are talking wax.: Porzlack, and then a refinishing cream, in the past. Now as I got a good price, Zymol, which has coconut and banana added! Smells wonderful.
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hi guys,

thanks again for all the input, I am going to buy some AG shampoo conditioner tomorrow. But I am a bit confused after that.

I am guessing something like the Aqua Wax or the Extra gloss protection would be best?

What about the Resin Polish?

Thanks again

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Tried loads, and loads,(well I did get my first licence to drive in '56 ) Go for Sqn.R's choice, as he is a polish/ wax/finish, fanatic, with two very smart Alfa's, and he won't entertain any but the best.:
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yes, I have been reading his FYI, in the forum. But also reading some of the Q and A on the autoglym website, they recommend the super resin polish and extra gloss protection to this person with a red alfa

Autoglym - car cleaning products, car care products, car valeting, car detailing
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Simon's,... Sqn. Rossos cars are veritable proof on what to buy, and use? He ought to be a 'Which' polish tester, as he is always up front on the best finishing agents.:
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I pampered, nurtured, polished and waxed, and always kept garaged, the Alfa Red 147 for four years. But, when I went to the local VBRA Regd. body repairers to the rear of where I live, for paint advice, the manager and I agreed that the red would be very difficult when trying to obtain a perfect match.Most reds are known to alter their shade quite dramatically over time.:
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Re: cleaning with dishwashing detergent

Its actually quite simple:

Polishes are to a greater or lesser extent abrasive and make your paintwork shine. Some, but not all, contain fillers that mask scratches but will eventually erode leaving them visible once again. An example of a polish that contains fillers is AG SRP.

Waxes are there to protect your paintwork from the elements. They mostly are completely non-abrasive and contain carnauba wax. This is what makes the water bead on a car's paintwork. Examples of pure carnauba wax are Collinite and P21S.

There are also Sealants like Klasse/Car-Lack but that is another subject altogether

I re-iterate what I said earlier, living in Aussie you need to protect your paintwork with a good quality wax.

BTW many of the cheap car shampoos which you buy in the local supermarket contain salt so go for a good quality one which you will normally find in Motor Spares shops and online. The Meguiars shampoos are very good as are the AG ones
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http://www.premierbodyshops.co.uk/im...r_Wax_Z503.jpg
so what area does this stuff fall into?
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