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Does claying remove protection?

A year ago I had a major problem with my paintwork after someone used an angle grinder right next to the car. Cutting a long story short, it ended up needing a full acid wash, claying and re coating with Diamondbright.

A year down the line I’ve noticed the paintwork is again beginning to feel slightly rough and somehow doesn’t quite look 100% clean and shiny even after a good washing.

My question is if I use some clay to remove the contamination, does it remove the Diamondbright coating?
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

Short answer is yes it should.The real question is,is there any diamondbrite left on it? surely if the paintwork's starting to dull and hold contaniments then it's not doing its' advertised job.
I, personally don't buy the claims of these protective coatings.
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

I often wonder about the no need to ever wax your car again claim. For sure the coating works and it was only the coating that saved me from the cost total re-spray a year back. I think they recommend using some kind of top up rinse at each wash that I’ve never bothered with and that may be the problem.

I’ve still got half a pack of the Diamondbright left from last time so I could reapply it but I don’t know it I need to after such a short time?
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

Sound like you should clay first they apply the DB again......is it the 2 stage glaze stuff?
And a bottle of stuff to wash with once a month?
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

Is the 2 stage Diamond Bright stuff any good? Only asking as I have a couple of bottles of each stage in my garage and haven't used it yet.
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

I think it’s pretty good as I’ve never had to wax or polish the car in over two years but as I say, I’ve got what seems to be industrial fallout on it again and I don’t think anything can fully protect against that.

Anyway, I’m off to try and find some clay now so I’ll report back when I've given it a try.
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

That's because you didn't wax or polish the car in over two years..!

Clay it, DB it, polish it.. Done!

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Re: Does claying remove protection?

These contemporary flat and lacquer finishes, are 'pants' compared to the 'tough' as old boots finishes that were used, before all this 'greenery' leggie' was introduced. Soft as a Babies bottom, and they scratch if you just lightly brush past 'Em. 'Opeless finishes, imho.
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

Diamond brite and the likes = diamond schite
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

I do favour quantity over quality. For the most part I use Colour Magic on Tarquini and the finish looks pretty good for his age. I dunno if the more "leading edge" polishes actually add very much, to be honest.
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I feel an experiment coming on.


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Re: Does claying remove protection?

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I often wonder about the no need to ever wax your car again claim.
No such wax/sealant/protectant... It's like someone inventing a new beer and and saying that the taste stays in your mouth forever, or that the alcohol never fades from your blood

But then again "ever" seems to be a relative term
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

Give the car a good clay, bit of a polish with something like Autoglym Super Resin Polish and apply the Diamondbrite. You should be good for a while again. Personally I struggle to believe the never wax for 5 years type claims.
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

Even if stuff light DB works for 5 years, the whole concept of claying indicates that within 5 years you can expect contaminants to sit on the surface of such treatments; so if you want to do more than just protect the underlying paint (ie you want a shiny car) then there is a need to still wash and wax
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

In short - yes.

It takes just about everything off.
 
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Re: Does claying remove protection?

there no way any protection system can last more than a few months ! you may think it looks shiney but just washing it can make it look shiney !

the true test is does it sheet water ? if you are left with water all over the car once washed and rinsed then it has no protection, does it bead water uniformly when it rains ? not big lumps all over the place but neat little beads.

this comapany have just done a salt water test to prove that Autoglym and leading dealer paint protection systems offer no more protection than good wax etc...

i have just purchased some of this Autoblam but have not had time to use it yet although on other detailing forums its getting good feedback against products that are rated highly, and they say that the key to any protection is the "claying process"
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