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Nordstrand polisher

I was given a Nordstrand car polisher http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/142301386276?_mwBanner=1 as a present and I'm very keen to give it a go this weekend.

Has anybody had any experience using this or similar polisher as to date I've polished and waxed cars by hand with microfibres cloths. I'm a little unsure which pads I should be using for each step. I was going to apply the polish by hand and then using the white mitt cloth to work it in until clear, then apply the wax using the same methodology but I guess I should be using the orange foam pads too??


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I don't want to pee on your chips but I'd be very careful if you have never done this kind of work before.

It appears to be a rotary action buffer/polisher rather than a DA (dual action) polisher. It generates quite a lot of heat very quickly. You only have a few microns of clear coat and you can burn through it very fast. These are used by professionals who understand the media they are working with.

There is a clear explanation of the differences here:

Rotary Buffer vs DA Polisher vs Traditional Orbital Buffer

I'd take some time on the Meguiars site and on YouTube to learn about the techniques.

The bundle you have got apparently explains what the different pads do. There are many systems with different colour codes so I can't help directly with that question.

BTW the wool mop is particularly aggressive on paint - be very careful indeed.

Whichever pad you use, be sure to "prime" it first - i.e. make sure it is loaded across its entire face with the compound or polish you are using, or else the pad itself will mar the paint. No harm using quick detailing spray as a lubricant for the first few tries either.

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But spend an evening or two reading up first.
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I don't want to pee on your chips but I'd be very careful if you have never done this kind of work before.

It appears to be a rotary action buffer/polisher rather than a DA (dual action) polisher. It generates quite a lot of heat very quickly. You only have a few microns of clear coat and you can burn through it very fast. These are used by professionals who understand the media they are working with.

There is a clear explanation of the differences here:

Rotary Buffer vs DA Polisher vs Traditional Orbital Buffer

I'd take some time on the Meguiars site and on YouTube to learn about the techniques.

The bundle you have got apparently explains what the different pads do. There are many systems with different colour codes so I can't help directly with that question.

BTW the wool mop is particularly aggressive on paint - be very careful indeed.

Whichever pad you use, be sure to "prime" it first - i.e. make sure it is loaded across its entire face with the compound or polish you are using, or else the pad itself will mar the paint. No harm using quick detailing spray as a lubricant for the first few tries either.

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Thanks Peter - very helpful indeed, I am quite thorough by nature so I'll have a good read and take it very easy, and maybe even try and find something to practice on first.

Thanks again, great advice
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Few random thoughts about using a rotary. First of all, I would replace the backing plate (which the pads are attached to) for a decent one eg 3M, GlossIt or the cheaper Flexipads, it will make using the machine much easier.

Secondly, learn how to use the machine before trying any polishing. A DA can be picked up and used very quickly but a rotary has a longer learning curve. A scrap panel is very useful as it gives you a chance to do crazy things without risking your paint. Whatever panel you use, get a finishing pad and polish, the idea is not to remove any paint but to simply learn to move the pad across the panel. A DA is pushed across the panel but a rotary is guided by tilting the polisher. The advantage of a rotary is it is much faster as removing paint than a DA - this can be a good or bad thing.

I have no idea how good or otherwise the supplied pads are, you can use almost any brand of pads you wish but my favourite is the 3M pads, especially the yellow (polishing) and blue (finishing) pads.

Keep the speeds low, a lot of great work can be done at 1000rpm or lower.
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Same as mine and i was brand new to power polishing.
I applied the polish to the foam pad, 4 or 5 splodges then sprayed lubricant direct onto the car, in my case 3M quick detailer.
1st passes at very slow speed up and down just allowing the weight of the machine to do the work and then a final couple of passes at a higher speed again just letting the polisher do the work, being careful not to let it bounce.
And then rubbed the lot down with micro fibre cloths i could of done it with the lambs wool attachment but i bottled it.
Mine came up a treat.

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I forgot to add to my post. Stay away from the wool pad, the chances are the supplied one will do a good job at adding more swirls. A good wool pad is a very aggressive thing, perfect for very hard paint or when you want to remove a lot of paint quickly. I suggest this is not a good pad to be trying whilst learning to use the rotary
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I forgot to add to my post. Stay away from the wool pad, the chances are the supplied one will do a good job at adding more swirls. A good wool pad is a very aggressive thing, perfect for very hard paint or when you want to remove a lot of paint quickly. I suggest this is not a good pad to be trying whilst learning to use the rotary
Thanks everyone for their help and advice.

I have done a fair amount of reading over the weekend and decided that I won't be using the the Nordstrand on my car, the paintwork is currently in fantastic condition so to risk ruining it with a rotary polisher with zero experience would be crazy.
That said, I am going to get a scrap door and give it a go as having the skill for the future I believe would be worth having.
I have also decided to invest in a DA polisher to make polishing and waxing easier so if anyone has advice as to which to go for - that would be great.
Thanks all again.

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I have also decided to invest in a DA polisher to make polishing and waxing easier so if anyone has advice as to which to go for - that would be great.
Thanks all again.

James
James,

Wise move. Enjoy the practice!

The DAS-6 PRO is a reasonably priced tool which is well thought of. Meguiars do one as well.

If you look around the car detailing vendor websites, they are often sold as a bundle with pads and fluids. Slim's and Clean Your Car are examples of specialist vendors I have found reliable but there are many others

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Never allow it to dry out, use plenty of water to keep it cool and lubricated. Keep spraying the areas with a mist spray bottle.
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Thanks everyone for their help and advice.

I have done a fair amount of reading over the weekend and decided that I won't be using the the Nordstrand on my car, the paintwork is currently in fantastic condition so to risk ruining it with a rotary polisher with zero experience would be crazy.
That said, I am going to get a scrap door and give it a go as having the skill for the future I believe would be worth having.
I have also decided to invest in a DA polisher to make polishing and waxing easier so if anyone has advice as to which to go for - that would be great.
Thanks all again.

James
There are basically several options when it comes to a DA. The basic machine DAS6 is a generic polisher which is a good machine and is one of the cheapest options. There are more powerful versions such as the DAS6-Pro which has a more powerful motor. This is very useful as the basic machine can bog down under pressure and so the extra power reduces this. These machines have been around for many years and have stood the test of time. These machine can use different size backing plates i.e. 5" and 3". Smaller pads are great for intricate areas such as bumpers or door frames.

In the last few years, a variation of the DA has entered the market and there are the longer throw (orbit size) machines. I have not tried one of these machines but seem to have the advantage of quicker cutting and lower vibrations. These machines do seem to have become very popular with many people. The downside is they cannot be used with smaller pads.

Here is a review and description of a larger throw machine from Autogeeks. The machine they are looking at is a fancy and expensive model but lower price machines can be bought easily in the UK.

I moved from a DA to a rotary as it seems I am one of the unlucky ones who seem to be very sensitive to the vibrations of a standard DA. A rotary does not really vibrate and if I had the budget I would try one of the longer throw DA polishes which seems to have better vibration properties. For example this one ShineMate - EX605 Orbital Polisher Kit - Clean Your Car

Just to add to the options, you can now buy small DA machines eg Vertool 12e - Mini Dual Action Polisher - Clean Your Car which I suspect are perfect for small areas and interior cleaning, however, these small machines are probably more of a additional polisher to a full sized one, rather than a stand alone polishers.

If you have a healthy budget then you are into the products of the professionals and will last many many years.
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There are basically several options when it comes to a DA. The basic machine DAS6 is a generic polisher which is a good machine and is one of the cheapest options. There are more powerful versions such as the DAS6-Pro which has a more powerful motor. This is very useful as the basic machine can bog down under pressure and so the extra power reduces this. These machines have been around for many years and have stood the test of time. These machine can use different size backing plates i.e. 5" and 3". Smaller pads are great for intricate areas such as bumpers or door frames.

In the last few years, a variation of the DA has entered the market and there are the longer throw (orbit size) machines. I have not tried one of these machines but seem to have the advantage of quicker cutting and lower vibrations. These machines do seem to have become very popular with many people. The downside is they cannot be used with smaller pads.

Here is a review and description of a larger throw machine from Autogeeks. The machine they are looking at is a fancy and expensive model but lower price machines can be bought easily in the UK.

I moved from a DA to a rotary as it seems I am one of the unlucky ones who seem to be very sensitive to the vibrations of a standard DA. A rotary does not really vibrate and if I had the budget I would try one of the longer throw DA polishes which seems to have better vibration properties. For example this one ShineMate - EX605 Orbital Polisher Kit - Clean Your Car

Just to add to the options, you can now buy small DA machines eg Vertool 12e - Mini Dual Action Polisher - Clean Your Car which I suspect are perfect for small areas and interior cleaning, however, these small machines are probably more of a additional polisher to a full sized one, rather than a stand alone polishers.

If you have a healthy budget then you are into the products of the professionals and will last many many years.
Thanks all for the advice.

I have had a look at various DA polishes, the DAS6-pro certainly seems to have good reviews.
Given the expense of a good DA polisher and the fact that I am unlikely to be using my Nordstrand anytime soon, would anyone who is maybe considering stepping up to rotary polishing be up for a swap?

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James, did you get a DAS6-Pro in the end?
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Unfortunately not lowejackson, a creaking / worn anti-roll bar has used that pot of money so it's on hold for a while. I have polished and protected it - by hand though 😅
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Unfortunately not lowejackson, a creaking / worn anti-roll bar has used that pot of money so it's on hold for a while. I have polished and protected it - by hand though 😅
Looks glossy me.

My central heating boiler has died so my plans to fix my suspension have been put on hold for a few months
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