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Just had exactly the same thing happen to us in our 147 GTA project. Car was driving absolutely perfectly about a week ago and when we tried to start it up yesterday it idled for about 20 seconds and then just completely shut off suddenly. Immobilizer and VDC errors on the dash when we turn the ignition now.

Hoping its the loose capacitor issue everyone seems to be having, otherwise we have no idea what to do after that since there's no second hand ECUs or new ECUs anymore.

Maybe you can check for the same thing with your ECU? I'm going to open mine up and report back later.
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Guess its heat / vibration / age but cant be certain .... heat shield might help.. removing manifold cats does .. as long as heat can still escape the ecu though
I was thinking of a bit of angled kevlar or something ..

'removing the cats': The side-effect of this would be a more raspy/high-pitched engine note?
'as long as heat can still escape the ecu though': This is retained heat within the ecu itself as a result of it's location (as opposed to any heat the unit produces itself) ?
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Update.

Following on from the suspected ECU trouble, I gave the battery a full charge and it's been on charge regularly using a c-tech trickle charger since and it's not given any more trouble. So I I'm now convinced it was low battery voltage.

It's now overdue for an MOT. I didn't get round to it before it ran out as I've been flapping about getting the TBi sorted out (blown turbo) and that also had it's MOT expire within the same week as the GTA. So I've elected to let it sit in the car port for a month so I don't have both of them run out at the same time next year.

I have been faffing with it to make sure it's OK though - aiming to get it though with no advisories again....

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I suspect they're going to say that there's slight play in the upper arm bushes but I'll suffer that as an advisory rather than replace them as it's not sufficient to bother replacing them as it stands. (There are genuine Alfa spares sat in the garage.)

I've also gone on a spending spree and bought;

New seat base;

57652063274__420C5260-8812-4BFB-B195-D1AFDCA8A317 by Chris, on Flickr

New interior carpet

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And a parcel shelf...

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I'm amazed those parts are still available.
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I'm amazed those parts are still available.
It's old stock that has been bought by 3rd part retailers. Doubt you'd be able to buy it from Alfa, but you wouldn't want to anyway!
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There's a lot of parts that are becoming scarce unfortunately, I really hope some third parties will start making parts because otherwise we're all in trouble with our GTAs
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It's old stock that has been bought by 3rd part retailers. Doubt you'd be able to buy it from Alfa, but you wouldn't want to anyway!
which ones do you use chris
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Update.

Following on from the suspected ECU trouble, I gave the battery a full charge and it's been on charge regularly using a c-tech trickle charger since and it's not given any more trouble. SO I don't know what went on there. Could've been battery voltage. Could be an indication that all is not right with the ECU.

It's now overdue for an MOT. I didn't get round to it before it ran out as I've been flapping about getting the TBi sorted out (blown turbo) and that also had it's MOT expire within the same week as the GTA. So I've elected to let it sit in the car port for a month so I don't have both of them run out at the same time next year.

I have been faffing with it to make sure it's OK though - aiming to get it though with no advisories again....

IMG_0228 by Chris, on Flickr

I suspect they're going to say that there's slight play in the upper arm bushes but I'll suffer that as an advisory rather than replace them as it's not sufficient to bother replacing them as it stands. (There are genuine Alfa spares sat in the garage.)

I've also gone on a spending spree and bought;

New seat base;

57652063274__420C5260-8812-4BFB-B195-D1AFDCA8A317 by Chris, on Flickr

New interior carpet

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And a parcel shelf...

57652065770__5D26FCE8-5FF7-4957-93B0-2816514D935D by Chris, on Flickr
Bit of a Jack Reacher fan, I see...
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which ones do you use chris
Most of them but these parts came from partsworld...
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Bit of a Jack Reacher fan, I see...
I'm more of a book fan than a Reacher fan, the whole unit is stacked 2 books deep from floor to ceiling... But I do have some things in common with Reacher.
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Passed it's MOT today, 3rd year in a row with no advisories and 7th year in a row it's passed without a preceding fail.

But....

I'm thinking about putting it up for sale.

I think I'm going to pull the engine out, change the cam belt, clutch, rear crank seal and then sell it. Need to put the new carpet in it too. And the parcel shelf, boot seal and clutch damper. Oh, and the seat base. Just a few jobs then...
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Don't really know why I'm thinking about selling it. It's too fast to use to it's full potential, it's in near perfect condition and aside from the up-coming (routine) cam belt and clutch, costs very little to run as a second car. Thanks to my ever vigilant Father, I think the cam kit cost less than 100 and we found a genuine alfa clutch kit for 50....

I've not even had to spend much time cleaning it since it was painted, given how little use it gets. Have decided to give it a bit of a clean though, starting with a quick underside blast with the pressure washer and under the wheel arches;

IMG_0696 by Chris, on Flickr

And then the wheels;

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It's now become a full blown detailing session, as despite the fact it's lashing down I'm starting to become accustomed to the idea that I have what is effectively a garage. And that the GTA fits in the 'garage" And I can work on it whilst it is in the "garage". It really is a novel concept for me.

I carried on with the 1/4 panel, door and wing tonight after work...

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Looks absolutely mint. What would you value it at? It must be one of the best 147 GTAs around I would think.
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That's a beautiful colour and suits the car well. I've seen a similar one in person and would love to have the 156 in that colour.
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Looks absolutely mint. What would you value it at? It must be one of the best 147 GTAs around I would think.
Thanks Dan.

With a fresh cam belt / clutch, I was thinking 14k with some leeway for negotiation.

But I need to do that and put a new interior carpet in it.
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... It's now become a full blown detailing session ...
Can I make a suggestion https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/car-...n-entries.html (June 2019 Detailing Competition Entries)
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Thanks Dan.

With a fresh cam belt / clutch, I was thinking 14k with some leeway for negotiation.

But I need to do that and put a new interior carpet in it.

Looks great, worth every penny id say. If you can bring yourself to sell it!
No calls on mine, but they can take a while to sell I suppose. Not too bothered, I still like it! Certainly more fun than an ISA and probably better return than 2.5% per year!
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Nah, wouldn't be fair on everyone else...
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Looks great, worth every penny id say. If you can bring yourself to sell it!
No calls on mine, but they can take a while to sell I suppose. Not too bothered, I still like it! Certainly more fun than an ISA and probably better return than 2.5% per year!
Thanks. You're safe from competition for now - I need to change the cam belt and clutch before I think about putting it up for sale.
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Got round to fitting the new "Hat Board" and boot seal. Surprising how much of a difference it made to the overall look. Even the seal - the old one was fine, not torn or anything, it just looked old.

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Number plate off and indicators out at the front as well... I have new bulb holders for the indicators to go back in which should improve their brightness.

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Nah, wouldn't be fair on everyone else...
Don't worry about everyone else :EVIL:

Put it to the vote & let the people decide
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Thanks. You're safe from competition for now - I need to change the cam belt and clutch before I think about putting it up for sale.
I dont think Im competing with yours! Mine is in the very nice original condition, with lots of money spent to keep it well maintained, with nice mileage (72k), whereas I think yours is in the band several 000s above, with the concours cars in the mid to high teens. I certainly have dismantled and rebuilt mine several times to make sure its perfect!
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