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Eibach springs on a Cloverleaf

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want to lower my cloverleaf using Eibach pro spring kit

The drop spec says 25mm approx..... but as the Cloverleaf is already lower does that mean the drop will be more like 15mm?

Anyone pot the pro kit springs on a cloverleaf with standard shocks?

Anyone got pictures with this set up after on a Cloverleaf by any chance?
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I think the drop on a normal G is 35mm from memory, correct me If I am wrong
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yeah but as its a cloverleaf already, im guessing the drop is not as much?
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It's a 20-25mm drop on the QV. Pretty sure anyway. Just keep it less than a 30mm drop as that's the cut off for UK insurers to start getting arsey!

I'm waiting for Spring before doing mine, just in case it gets beached on snow up here! Are you going for the Bilsteins as well? If I have any complaint about the suspension (which is FAR better than reviews suggest) it's that it feels slightly underdamped and over sprung at low speeds.

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wheres the best place to get these??
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If I have any complaint about the suspension (which is FAR better than reviews suggest) it's that it feels slightly underdamped and over sprung at low speeds.
Which of course will make it even more under-damped and over-sprung if lowering springs are fitted.

I'd say improved dampers are the way to go
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I was considering the full Eibach Pro kit with Bilstein B6s. Would like someone to confirm that it's not too firm though. I don't want to go back to Evo levels of ride discomfort!!!
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I was considering the full Eibach Pro kit with Bilstein B6s. Would like someone to confirm that it's not too firm though. I don't want to go back to Evo levels of ride discomfort!!!
Not too firm but too jumpy. Even on a good road surface. I hated it.
If you want comfort , go with Eibach pros + GQV shocks

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Well im going for the eibachs I think, had them on a few cars now.

anybody got a picture of an cloverleaf with standard shocks and eibachs?
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What is the main purpose of lowering a car.. Sporty look ? what else.. wouldn't it be unsafe as it is against factory settings...
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the main purpose in my case is for a better look ....... in no way would it be unsafe though unless you started doing what they use to do in the olden days .. a bad practice of cutting the standard springs.

what I love about eibach springs though is that they are what is known as a progressive spring. They actually firm up the more the springs is compressed. So in hard corning they firm up yet in normal driving they are just as comfortable in most cases than standard because the first part of the spring is softer.

I actually had a 2009 civic type r before and the eibachs actually improved the standard spring set up as they were a bit softer than the standard Honda spring which were not of a progressive design. A popular mod for the type R's was it and same for the mazda 3 mps guys as it improved the ride.
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In Turkey we have high sidewalks.. With my seat leon before, sometimes I had to get out the car from passenger side cause I couldn't open the door which is beside the sidewalk.. Also sometimes I could hit the door to sidewalk..
With G I have no such a problem.. Also a short spring has to be harder for not hitting the base of the car to the road while passing through the pits .. Am I wrong ?
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I wish they made a progressive spring that was non lowering! I'm not that bothered with the look and the one thing putting me off lowering is that it'll **** up the geometry, especially the camber. Lot's of inside wear on the tyres, more tram lining and less traction.

Let me know how you get on with them and the stock dampers. My ideal setup would be a progressive spring that was near stock height, and Koni FSD dampers, but neither seem to exist for the Giulietta..
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Not too firm but too jumpy. Even on a good road surface. I hated it.
If you want comfort , go with Eibach pros + GQV shocks
Thanks DeP. Did you try that combination with stock shocks as well? How about the B4 Bilsteins? I believe they're more of an OEM replacement?
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Yeah will do.... I have fitted eibachs on a lot of cars and they actually make ac schnitzer stuff for them

never caused problems with tyre wear, camber, tram lining etc Ali
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wont droppping your car give you negative camber?
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wont droppping your car give you negative camber?
With any suspension work you should get a 4 wheel alignment done.
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Replacing the springs and shocks are a difficult job to do.. I watched in youtube and its scary...
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Replacing the springs and shocks are a difficult job to do.. I watched in youtube and its scary...
Er is it? i replaced my shocks last week, completed the job in less than 4 hrs.
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Try to replace the springs also..
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Try to replace the springs also..
The springs have to come out.
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Congrats for that.. I could never do that myself..
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it actually takes me around 2 hours with the right tools if it's a car i've done before.
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Thanks DeP. Did you try that combination with stock shocks as well? How about the B4 Bilsteins? I believe they're more of an OEM replacement?
I tried stock shocks with eibach pro kits and it was comfortable.

B8s (same with B6s with shorter piston rod ) with eibach pro kits , it was a little bit stiff and jumpy as I said before.

B8s with H&R springs was the true setup for me . Stiff yet comfortable . Solid and feels safe.

If you want a comfortable setup go with stock shocks and eibach prokits.

I made a lot of modifications on my old GQV . Most satisfying changes were Bilstein B8s and Quaife LSD .

Never tried B4s .
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I tried stock shocks with eibach pro kits and it was comfortable.



B8s (same with B6s with shorter piston rod ) with eibach pro kits , it was a little bit stiff and jumpy as I said before.



B8s with H&R springs was the true setup for me . Stiff yet comfortable . Solid and feels safe.



If you want a comfortable setup go with stock shocks and eibach prokits.



I made a lot of modifications on my old GQV . Most satisfying changes were Bilstein B8s and Quaife LSD .



Never tried B4s .

I am undecided between eibach pro kit and novitec sport springs... Currently swaying towards eibachs. Would you recommend them on stock shocks? How is comfort effected?
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