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It is not a face-lift, just a MY2020. Face-lift if it happens, will be next year, 1 year too late.
They are not updating it enough - competition is much more active - and a couple of years ahead in tech and features.

Sales of Alfa as a company have crumbled, yet they still don't feel the need to be more proactive in the areas they are lagging behind. Go figure...
 
#21 ·
This makes me laugh:

"The Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio were designed to compete with the likes of BMW and Mercedes, but there’s no denying they are a little rough around the edges when it comes to quality, especially perceived quality."

A word that rhymes with rowlocks. These people have had their head far to far up their own rectum in the BMW show rooms for far to long.
 
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Not sure about that @hector56 but I hear it will have retractable cloverleaf badging and 2 disappearing exhaust tips. Hopefully that should sneak it past the missus ;) (sorry could not resist) :)
 
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I would say that "lower quality, especially perceived quality" is a polite way of saying that Giulia's and Stelvio's interior is prone to rattling and creeking. Stelvio might be even worse, due to having stiffer suspension setup.
I have watched many reviews where journalists complained about the rattles in Stelvio.

I can only say that rattles and creeks are one of the major complaints I have about Giulia - when I was driving it new from the dealer there were already creeks in the cabin. Now at 70k km there are still rattles present even after I used felt tape excessively on many places around the interior - some with the help from the dealer and and some by myself - yes I had to learn how to dismantle most of the interior in Giulia when trying to fix rattles and creeks.
This is unacceptable for a car that had a MSRP of 60.000€.

Most people would probably not notice them, but I am very rattle/creek sensitive, so I go an extra mile to fix them - however they are still there and it sucks! :)
 
#32 ·
No rattles in my Stelvio. And VW has started using the dreaded hard plastic a year or two back. The Troc has it and whilst it’s mentioned it does get away with it. The main reason for using slush mouldings is that you can fit bezels for vents and switches with zero shut gaps.
 
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Yes, what rattles?????
 
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From the Irish facebook Alfa Romeo group tonight.

Update.....Mike Manley has now scrapped the Giorgio platform saying it didn't live up to the expectation with Giulia and Stelvio. How does the best NEW chassis around affect the final results of sales? This has been met with total incredulity from within. Mike Manley was against the Giorgio platform when Marchionne did it. Is this his revenge?
 
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I think we would need a link to the Manley official statement on that.
 
#41 ·
The Giorgio platform was designed to take electrification to future proof it so it would seem strange to write it off so early in it's life cycle. The loss of Sergio is huge as he fully understood the value in the brand being Italian. We can only hope that Carlos Tavares sees more potential for the Italian brands than Manley appears to.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/01/alfa-romeo-gtv-8c-canceled/
 
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Regardless of which info is true, Manley seems to be a d*ck, I hope they throw him off his chair ASAP. Gorgio platfom is by far the best thing Alfa produced in the last 4 decades - if they do not see the value of that and are willing to give up already after 3 years of trying, then they better sell off the Alfa brand by this monday.

@smarty156: I am pretty sure I would hear some. :) Try driving around without any radio/music on a rough road and listen carefully, and then report back.
 
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