I heard that there is more being changed inside than outside - I am just glad there is a facelift! BMW seem to have knocked out about 5 since the Giulia was launched.
It is not a face-lift, just a MY2020. Face-lift if it happens, will be next year, 1 year too late.
They are not updating it enough - competition is much more active - and a couple of years ahead in tech and features.
Sales of Alfa as a company have crumbled, yet they still don't feel the need to be more proactive in the areas they are lagging behind. Go figure...
What are the chances that QV gets AWD? Is it possible or too much needs to change under the car? I would assume that most components are shared with Giulia Veloce/Stelvio anyway?
Not going to happen, not even with the face-lift next year. There is probably not enough space in the front area, because of V6 being much wider than straight 4.
Judging from the pictures of the frontends of Quadrifoglios being sold for scrap after crashing it would appear that there are a lot of ancillary parts like cooling radiators for various things and so on.
Hi. Anyone who knows when the official launch of the MY2020 Giulia and Stelvio are going to take place? I heard something about Kimi Räikkönen and his wife being involved in the advertising of the cars and also the official launch?
"The Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio were designed to compete with the likes of BMW and Mercedes, but there’s no denying they are a little rough around the edges when it comes to quality, especially perceived quality."
A word that rhymes with rowlocks. These people have had their head far to far up their own rectum in the BMW show rooms for far to long.
Not sure about that @hector56 but I hear it will have retractable cloverleaf badging and 2 disappearing exhaust tips. Hopefully that should sneak it past the missus (sorry could not resist)
I would say that "lower quality, especially perceived quality" is a polite way of saying that Giulia's and Stelvio's interior is prone to rattling and creeking. Stelvio might be even worse, due to having stiffer suspension setup.
I have watched many reviews where journalists complained about the rattles in Stelvio.
I can only say that rattles and creeks are one of the major complaints I have about Giulia - when I was driving it new from the dealer there were already creeks in the cabin. Now at 70k km there are still rattles present even after I used felt tape excessively on many places around the interior - some with the help from the dealer and and some by myself - yes I had to learn how to dismantle most of the interior in Giulia when trying to fix rattles and creeks.
This is unacceptable for a car that had a MSRP of 60.000€.
Most people would probably not notice them, but I am very rattle/creek sensitive, so I go an extra mile to fix them - however they are still there and it sucks!
No rattles in my Stelvio. And VW has started using the dreaded hard plastic a year or two back. The Troc has it and whilst it’s mentioned it does get away with it. The main reason for using slush mouldings is that you can fit bezels for vents and switches with zero shut gaps.
My 2017 Giulia Quadrifoglio has zero rattles or creaks. I'm actually very impressed how silent it is. In fact, I wish it would let more exhaust noise into the cabin so I can enjoy it more.
Update.....Mike Manley has now scrapped the Giorgio platform saying it didn't live up to the expectation with Giulia and Stelvio. How does the best NEW chassis around affect the final results of sales? This has been met with total incredulity from within. Mike Manley was against the Giorgio platform when Marchionne did it. Is this his revenge?
The Giorgio platform was designed to take electrification to future proof it so it would seem strange to write it off so early in it's life cycle. The loss of Sergio is huge as he fully understood the value in the brand being Italian. We can only hope that Carlos Tavares sees more potential for the Italian brands than Manley appears to.
Regardless of which info is true, Manley seems to be a d*ck, I hope they throw him off his chair ASAP. Gorgio platfom is by far the best thing Alfa produced in the last 4 decades - if they do not see the value of that and are willing to give up already after 3 years of trying, then they better sell off the Alfa brand by this monday.
@smarty156: I am pretty sure I would hear some. Try driving around without any radio/music on a rough road and listen carefully, and then report back.
I frequently drive with no radio/music (why wouldn't you want to hear that engine?) and the roads round here are generally pretty poor. I can assure you, there are zero rattles or creaks.
Happy to take you for a spin if you don't believe me.
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