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Giulia QV AWD feasibility

This is just a thought, I'm in no way hoping to do this to my car but I've been wondering what it would take to fit the Q4 system to a Giulia Quadrifoglio? I think it would be possible as....
  • The Giulia and Stelvio are the same platform
  • Q4 Giulias are available in other markets
  • We know the system can take the power with it being in the Stelvio

In my simple mind it would just be a case of installing the transfer box/clutch/whatever transfers power to the front along with front drive shafts. Plus maybe some software updates for Q4. But I'm sure it's quite not that straightforward
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The Giulia is available with Q4 in other markets
https://www.digitaltrends.com/car-re...sso-q4-review/
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The Giulia is available with Q4 in other markets
https://www.digitaltrends.com/car-re...sso-q4-review/
Yep, but not on the Quadrifoglio as far as I understand? With it being installed on base Giulias I would assume all component cutouts etc are in place in the chassis and body.
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The Giulia is available with Q4 in other markets
https://www.digitaltrends.com/car-re...sso-q4-review/
but not the quadrifoglio
Only thing close is stelvio.

Don't think there is an easy update, as the standard QF also has the torque vectoring....
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The steering rack will be in the way. As well as a turbo.
I know the Stelvio Qf comes in 4wd but there was probably a lot of minor changes to fit all that extra gubbins under there.
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This is just a thought, I'm in no way hoping to do this to my car but I've been wondering what it would take to fit the Q4 system to a Giulia Quadrifoglio? I think it would be possible as....
  • The Giulia and Stelvio are the same platform
  • Q4 Giulias are available in other markets
  • We know the system can take the power with it being in the Stelvio

In my simple mind it would just be a case of installing the transfer box/clutch/whatever transfers power to the front along with front drive shafts. Plus maybe some software updates for Q4. But I'm sure it's quite not that straightforward
Not a feasible change, in my opinion.

Apart from finding room for the extra parts, there would be a lot of software to change.

And most of all, it would ruin an exceptional car.

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Get a Stelvio Quadrofoglio. You don’t hear about them being written off when they are taken beyond their limit like all those Giulia Quads even though they’re faster in some magazines reports. Not just because the Giulia is more common.

An interesting comparison here;
https://tv.quattroruote.it/le-prove-...lvio-vs-giulia

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Do they come on Corsas as standard or regular Zeros??
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but not the quadrifoglio
Only thing close is stelvio.

Don't think there is an easy update, as the standard QF also has the torque vectoring....
So the Stelvio doesn't have torque vectoring? I always assumed the drivetrain was the same besides the Q4.
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So the Stelvio doesn't have torque vectoring? I always assumed the drivetrain was the same besides the Q4.
I think it does, but I'm not sure the software and suspension etc are the same as giulia
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Stelvio Quadrifoglio has Torque Vectoring - STD Stelvio does not.

TV is both clutches and planetary gears at rear axle - and advanced control system -Integrated Chassis Control -which - for some reason - seem to work perfectly

Guilia and Stelvio has the same basic chassis - but different tuning. Donīt try to mess with it - Alfa has done what is possible
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..there will absolutely be a build thread here circa 2029
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