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“I love the paddles but never use them!”

I’m quite happy with the gearbox and the decisions it makes. What am I missing by leaving it to do all the work instead of using those lovely metal devices?
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I use mine every day but only really to engage drive from reverse.
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I save them for the twisties

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I use mine every day but only really to engage drive from reverse.
I still use the selector. Do you just use the + paddle?
( I know I should read the book!)
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I still use the selector. Do you just use the + paddle?
( I know I should read the book!)
Yep! It saves precious seconds lol.
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use them a lot for switching between neutral and drive vv .....
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“It saves precious seconds lol.”
So does being too lazy to read the book!
I had a look at the paddles on the Macan at Geneva yesterday and they’re plastic. Despite Autocar saying the Alfa interior materials are “rubbish” compared to the Porsche in a comparison last week.
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I’m quite happy with the gearbox and the decisions it makes. What am I missing by leaving it to do all the work instead of using those lovely metal devices?
The ZF-8 auto box is cleverer than any auto box I've driven before and in normal circumstances I don't use the paddles, except for selecting Neutral or Drive.

I will sometimes change down using the paddles when, for example, slowing to enter a roundabout to have the ability to pull away quicker. Though with the torque on tap that really isn't necessary.

When pressing on on a country road, I may use the paddles to change down for a bend though I do find that the box often holds the lower gear longer than I would like, so I'm more likely to use Manual and the paddles for a spirited drive.

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The ZF-8 auto box is cleverer than any auto box I've driven before and in normal circumstances I don't use the paddles, except for selecting Neutral or Drive.

I will sometimes change down using the paddles when, for example, slowing to enter a roundabout to have the ability to pull away quicker. Though with the torque on tap that really isn't necessary.

When pressing on on a country road, I may use the paddles to change down for a bend though I do find that the box often holds the lower gear longer than I would like, so I'm more likely to use Manual and the paddles for a spirited drive.

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I too, find the box holds on too long but I noticed the other day that the gear number appears on the dash when using the paddles-it's only taken me 17 months to spot it!
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I love going back to auto after flicking over to manual for a stint.
This has been documented in "neat touches" ... if you're in manual, pull both paddles, the lever clicks back to centre the pull the right paddle and it puts you back in drive

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“I love the paddles but never use them!”

I use them a fair bit on the motorway on overtaking manoeuvres for a bit more zip rather than kicking down.

Longer Pull (-) Shifts by 2 D8 -> D6 for example.

Long Pull (+) sticks it back in D Full Auto

You can pull down for longer according to the manual ... but haven’t found the need to as yet



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I use the paddles for 1 mile of my commute home every day. It's a tight, twisty, uphill road. Also, I always use the paddles when moving from Park to Drive. Apart from that, auto all the way.

When I was younger I constantly played Richard Burns Rally on the PC with my steering wheel and paddles. This is just the grown up equivalent. Unnecessary but just so satisfying.
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I haven’t got my Veloce yet so forgive the question. In order to place the car in drive when setting off I just need to flick the + paddle? Also, can we switch from auto to full manual whilst driving? Thanks.
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I haven’t got my Veloce yet so forgive the question. In order to place the car in drive when setting off I just need to flick the + paddle? Also, can we switch from auto to full manual whilst driving? Thanks.
Yes and yes.
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I haven’t got my Veloce yet so forgive the question. In order to place the car in drive when setting off I just need to flick the + paddle? Also, can we switch from auto to full manual whilst driving? Thanks.
What would be nice if anyone has the time would be a full post in the form of a list of what does what on paddles...(i suppose we could just read the manual, if it does say what a 'double pull' achieves for example putting it back in auto). i really should have a decent look at it after a year and a half!
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I use them for locking it in a particular gear for roundabouts, so it doesn't change up or down while in the roundabout. I also use them prolifically for engine braking when on a twisty road, and again, locking into gear mid corner, then changing up quickly to keep it in the torque band. As well as all of the above. The entire gearbox/paddles set up is completely flawless in my opinion. It makes the diesel Giulia a genuinely seriously quick back road machine without going into silly speeds.
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I love going back to auto after flicking over to manual for a stint.
This has been documented in "neat touches" ... if you're in manual, pull both paddles, the lever clicks back to centre the pull the right paddle and it puts you back in drive

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Yes that does select Neutral and reselects drive in auto.

My preference is to push the gear lever to left manual and immediately right to auto avoiding being in neutral.

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To go into full manual from auto while driving, do we have to use the gearstick or can we use the paddles?
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You can use the paddles. The gear number will come up in the centre display, and after a few seconds, if you don't use the paddles again it reverts to auto. I never use the gear lever.
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I used the plus paddle instead of the selector today. Much better!
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To go into full manual from auto while driving, do we have to use the gearstick or can we use the paddles?
So far as I am aware, the only way to change to full manual is to move the gear lever over to the left.

Reverting to auto can either be done by returning the lever to the right or by pulling up on both paddles followed by the right paddle only. I prefer the former method as it avoids the one or two seconds spent in neutral.

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So far as I am aware, the only way to change to full manual is to move the gear lever over to the left.

Reverting to auto can either be done by returning the lever to the right or by pulling up on both paddles followed by the right paddle only. I prefer the former method as it avoids the one or two seconds spent in neutral.

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Thanks. Sounds easy enough.
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I don't use the paddles at all in A mode (other than for finding neutral and drive ) . I use them now and then while in N mode auto, for precise overtakes rather than using kickdown. Dynamic mode, which perhaps strangely I don't find I use very often, is pretty much all manual paddleshift and Race mode totally so.

I do sometimes find myself stroking them, or running my fingers up and down them! Is that just me?
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I do sometimes find myself stroking them, or running my fingers up and down them! Is that just me?
Nope Guilty as charged.......
They are just so damned tactile..... almost sexual !

A feature of the Paddles is the downshifting. If you are approaching a tee junction quickly a long continuous pull on the left paddle will select the gears sequentially, not quite at peak Revs, but at about 5k. It will drop right down to first, but that’s a bit harsh so I tend to stop at second and select first as I stop.

I do use the paddles a few times in a typical week, but never use full manual. I find the way it moves itself back into Auto is just spot on, it seems to sense when you don’t really need to use them, but obviously lets you start again at any time you feel like it.
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Nope Guilty as charged.......
They are just so damned tactile..... almost sexual !

A feature of the Paddles is the downshifting. If you are approaching a tee junction quickly a long continuous pull on the left paddle will select the gears sequentially, not quite at peak Revs, but at about 5k. It will drop right down to first, but that’s a bit harsh so I tend to stop at second and select first as I stop.

I do use the paddles a few times in a typical week, but never use full manual. I find the way it moves itself back into Auto is just spot on, it seems to sense when you don’t really need to use them, but obviously lets you start again at any time you feel like it.
As well as stroking, they surely also deserve some polishing?

I have only ever used the multiple downshift provided by the left paddle in the country for tight bends when I want to come down 2 or more ratios. I've not found it useful around town.

When approaching a roundabout or junction, I've never found a need to override the box's choice by more than one ratio. Perhaps that because I'm normally in Dynamic which downshifts at higher revs than in N.

I've found that in auto the box upshifts can be a bit delayed after a manual downshift, as I've said before. Again this may be down to me being in Dynamic. So in the country when pressing on, I often use Manual. However that's in a Quadrifoglio. With another Giulia version, I'd guess I'd use manual much less, if at all.

One thing I've found with downshifting with the paddles in auto, that one can find yourself deciding to downshift manually at the same moment as the box makes the decision to downshift too. It doesn't happen very often, but it can result in a quite jerky and unnecessarily double down shift.

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