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Early oil/filter change after run-in

Is anybody doing an early oil/filter change after run-in?
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There is no specified run in on the QV. Engines are pre run at factory.

A post track day fluid change might benefit you.
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There has been discussion about the benefits of not changing the run-in oil from the factory too early. As it gets to a certain mileage it gains protective properties etc.
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im booked for my free 1500klm service next week and they said they are not changing the oil or filter, and havent even looked at it yet

i could ask for it, but it wont be free
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I wasn't aware there was a 1500km initial service. What is the service interval on the QV? Is it fixed mileage, or variable servicing advised by the ECU?
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I looked into it and it was £270. Decided against it in the end.

Kanundrum in the US changed the oil on his QV after a couple thousand miles with a comment that it was quite dirty.
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I wasn't aware there was a 1500km initial service. What is the service interval on the QV? Is it fixed mileage, or variable servicing advised by the ECU?
9000 miles or 1 year, whichever sooner
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first service is optional i think and they basically just check for leaks and fluid levels and that everything is working fine
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When looking at the oil at the dip stick it looks rather clean but well I was driving a diesel before


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When looking at the oil at the dip stick it looks rather clean but well I was driving a diesel before
At least the Q has a dipstick
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I wasn't aware there was a 1500km initial service. What is the service interval on the QV? Is it fixed mileage, or variable servicing advised by the ECU?
There is some variation between countries.

My dealer, when I picked up the car on Tuesday, said there was no need for me to take the car in again until 9000miles or one year.

Certainly, the UK free servicing deal is 3 services at 9,000 mile intervals or 3 years whichever comes first.

I'm actually taking the car in on its 7th day because the Infotainment system has stopped working (my other post refers), but that's another matter.

I changed the oil on my 156 GTA at 6,000 mile intervals rather than the recommended 12,000 miles throughout my 178,000 mile ownership. I attribute the engine's good condition to that practice

My current intention is to change the Quadrifoglio's oil every 4,500 miles.

I am not aware of any downside of frequent oil changes, other than the cost.

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See post 8 of this , out of interest https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...il-change.html
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Change Oil early but Not the Filter?

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See post 8 of this , out of interest https://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...il-change.html
That post doesn't leave me with a clear conclusion on what's best.

Is change the oil early, but leave the filter until the recommended interval the right approach.

Any lubricant technologists reading this thread?

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I felt it worthwhile making you aware of what has been discussed. Perhaps a thread on a non-model specific area would be an idea as his knowledge had not occurred to me.
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It has been a common practice in all the engine development facilities that I have worked at over the last 13 years that after a run in which would range between 25 to 100 hours depending on the type of testing each engine was destined to go that the oil would be drained straight after the run in. The main reason for this Is the uncertainty with regards to cleanliness during assembly and the existence of machining swarf traces in various holes and channels that might have not been 100% cleaned. You could argue that there is an oil filter there to keep everything in check and it probably is sufficient for most cases but doing an early oil and filter change after an engine has been run in eliminates the risk of premature damage due to debris. The fact that the dealer does not specify this specific step in the service schedule is purely because it doesnít fit the global service strategy which in many countries include free service etc. In my case my Giulia is booked in for an oil and filter change in a couple of weeks with approximately 2500miles on the clock. The cost is not that big and itís a step towards ensuring optimal conditions for the engine operation.
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Oil is cheaper than engines.
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I am doing one on my car but we are still under 1,000 miles

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Mine goes in on Friday, it will be near 3k by then.
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Mine goes in on Friday, it will be near 3k by then.
How much have you been quoted?
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Didnt ask MG, I'll let you know, it'll be fair as it will be done by Monza Sport in Ashington.
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i had my 1500klms inspection service done and they didnt change the oil or the filter, but i would recommend having the inspection done at least

my mechanic was trained in Turin and found wheel nuts that werent to the torque spec and he adjusted tyre pressures to higher pressure at the back for preventing understeer ( 35psi for 225/40/19 front and 37psi for 255/35/19 rear)
ECU scan showed my 6101 update needed the latest version and the battery could do with a good trickle charge

changing the oil was left up to me, i didnt insist, but went with his advice and it wasnt needed
(i have heard the initial oil has an added lubricant of sorts for the new engine ... dont know how true that is)

the way im driving around enjoying this car, i should be due for a 15,000 klms oil change by next week sometime
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i had my 1500klms inspection service done and they didnt change the oil or the filter, but i would recommend having the inspection done at least

my mechanic was trained in Turin and found wheel nuts that werent to the torque spec and he adjusted tyre pressures to higher pressure at the back for preventing understeer ( 35psi for 225/40/19 front and 37psi for 255/35/19 rear)
ECU scan showed my 6101 update needed the latest version and the battery could do with a good trickle charge

changing the oil was left up to me, i didnt insist, but went with his advice and it wasnt needed
(i have heard the initial oil has an added lubricant of sorts for the new engine ... dont know how true that is)

the way im driving around enjoying this car, i should be due for a 15,000 klms oil change by next week sometime
Lubricants are not use for this car. Hence why I did an oil change. Oil was quite dirty imho (shown on video).
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of course
i might get it done at 4 -5000klms anyway
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Which oil are you using? Manual states Selenia Digitek but I have a lot of Mobil 1 New Life 0W-40 (Same spec 9.55535-Z2) so considering using that.
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