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159 replacing bulbs!

So, I thought it'd be a great idea to change my main and dipped beam headlights for some slightly brighter ones (he hopes!).

Is it just me, of do you actually need:

1) very small hands
2) hands with mirrors on so you can see what you're doing

I have given up. Another car that;s so tight to get the damn bulbs in.

Will have to go to the garage i think, don't want to risk messing anything up

Any tips?
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Once you've manoeuvred the caps off it's straight forward.

Then detach the connector.

Careful with the retaining spring clips as they have a tendancy
to fly out and get lost.

Remove and refit the new bulb.

Look in the front of the headlight to check it's seated.

Replace spring clip and reconnect.

Get the cap back into position and close.

Job done.
 
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You make it sound so easy Nev, I let them do mine at the service as the skin had only just healed over from the last time I changed them
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Once you've manoeuvred the caps off it's straight forward.

Then detach the connector.

Careful with the retaining spring clips as they have a tendancy
to fly out and get lost.

Remove and refit the new bulb.

Look in the front of the headlight to check it's seated.

Replace spring clip and reconnect.

Get the cap back into position and close.

Job done.
Nev, I'm not being funny, but have you ever changed the main beam bulbs on your 159, dip is easy, but mains are impossible unless you have double articulated wrists and hands about the size of a dessert spoon!
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Nev, I'm not being funny, but have you ever changed the main beam bulbs on your 159, dip is easy, but mains are impossible unless you have double articulated wrists and hands about the size of a dessert spoon!
so true changed both headlights ok fitted Osram Night Beaters - very good well pleased, tried to change main beams did drivers side ok but with a loss of blood and use of mirror, very long nose pliers, copious amounts of bad language, more bad language and bloody-mindedness, totlaay failed with passenger side even took battery off ! whole job took over 4 hours!! 35 mins for headlights rest was main beams. now have one ordinary main beam and one very bright bluish light!!
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Glad it's not just me.
The swearing started before I even started.
I'll try and independent garage. Only want osram night breakers fitted to try and improve light!
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Glad it's not just me.
The swearing started before I even started.
I'll try and independent garage. Only want osram night breakers fitted to try and improve light!
spoke to a few garages incl indies about this since, the best way is to remove the undertray, lower bumper, upper bumper and centre grill , then headlight units can be removed to change all the lamps .

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a sod to work on!
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You make it sound so easy Nev, I let them do mine at the service as the skin had only just healed over from the last time I changed them
Okay, I didn't mention the skinning but assumed that was just
standard on all Alfas.
 
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I remember my GT with xenon lights; impossible to change anything bulb-wise. Cost me 120 € to change side lights. They had to bring down the bumper. Haven“t dared to look under the hood of the Brera. Same situation?
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Haven“t dared to look under the hood of the Brera. Same situation?
uummmmmmm yeo reckon so! better get that spray on skin repair stuff ready!!
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Changed bulbs in wifes Volvo XC90 last week - what a joy. You can almost stand in the engine bay, use both hands to remove cover, pop bulb out, new bulbs in and back together in about 1 minute flat. I was chuckling to myself it was so pleasurable! Can't wait for them to blow again!
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Passenger-side (on right hand drive) Brera dipped beam not too bad. Very long long nosed pliers help a lot. Drive side is very tight, not helped when I found that the previous owner had lost the correct spring clip and bodged it up with another design of clip. I couldn't get that back so I have done my bodge with a bit of fuse wire. Anyone know where you can get a spring clip without having to buy a whole new headlight?
Incidentally, I had to replace the bulbs when both went at the same time, just as I turned them on. Anyone else had that happen?
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Had my main ones changed by Halfords in Huntingdon - explained I had read here they were hard to do, he had a look and had them changed in under 5 mins! The reach of the beam is still not very good though compared to other cars even after I had the Halfords extra bright bulbs fitted. I am sure my passenger side bulb actually lights up more of the field of to the left than the road ahead! How do check everything is lined up properly?
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that's why they only took 5 mins !
Think he hasn't seated the bulb by sound of it if it's correctly seated the beam should be same as drivers side as far as length of beam and the pool of light left of centre of bonnet. take a look through the lens from front see if bulb is square in holder? or just take it back and rant at them a bit!
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Had to change my wifes Renault Megane Headlight bulb on passenger side. Go in via the wheel arch (small cover to remove). Took off cover in wheel arch and torsion bar goes across the middle so cannot get hand in. Tried from the engine bay - same issue - hands were too large. Took it to Halfords and the guy there had small hands - done it in 5 minutes. After checking the Renault forums, people have had Renault dealers change them charging an hours labour saying that you've got to remove the bumper blah blah blah.

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I've got some Osram Nightbreaker's in my drawer since September, but I can't bring myself to swap them out, especially in this temp!

Silly question, but can they refuse to change the bulbs at a service? Or do they charge more (i.e an extra hours labour?) Got one due next month so I might just wait for that.
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I've got some Osram Nightbreaker's in my drawer since September, but I can't bring myself to swap them out, especially in this temp!

Silly question, but can they refuse to change the bulbs at a service? Or do they charge more (i.e an extra hours labour?) Got one due next month so I might just wait for that.
Over the years I have had two experiences of asking the garage to change a headlamp bulb on 'difficult' cars (reading the posts, apparently all cars are difficult). In both cases they charged me at least an hour's labour.
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Have just had the Pleasure !!!?!! of replacing the dipped beam bulb on my Brera. Skinned knuckles , enough hot air and swearing to melt the snow around the car and to crown it all dropped the B****y bulb into the bulkhead. More swearing and skinned knuckles but eventually retrieved via a magnetic rod !

Previous owner had obviously lost the spring clip and had used enough fuse wire to power a small town and then soldered it in position ! More swearing but eventually got the bulb placed, don't think that it is properly seated though so will probably have to try again once I have visited casualty to have my hands patched up !

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Have just had the Pleasure !!!?!! of replacing the dipped beam bulb on my Brera. Skinned knuckles , enough hot air and swearing to melt the snow around the car and to crown it all dropped the B****y bulb into the bulkhead. More swearing and skinned knuckles but eventually retrieved via a magnetic rod !

Previous owner had obviously lost the spring clip and had used enough fuse wire to power a small town and then soldered it in position ! More swearing but eventually got the bulb placed, don't think that it is properly seated though so will probably have to try again once I have visited casualty to have my hands patched up !

Still love Alfa though


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AsI said in my first post, I had the spring clip problem. I had to resort to fuse wire but I didn't solder it. You don't seem to be able to buy new spring clips: "Oh no, sir, they come as part of the headlamp unit. Yes, of course we can sell you a new headlamp unit, that will be £200, please." I have tried the local breakers yard but they only had a 156, which has a different design of clip. I have signed up to breakeryard.com to see if I can find a much cheaper headlamp assembly, just so I can get the clip.
There must be someone out there selling clips, for heaven's sake!
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I must have small hands then as I didnt have an issue, ive just changed dipped beam and side light bulbs..... or perhaps it depends on the engine you have to how much room you have???

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I got my local indie to fit 4 Osram Nightbreakers for me. One of them is out of alignment.
Its the drivers side FULL beam. So i unscrewed the back and it seems the whole holder is loose... hence why the light seems to point down to the road when on.
Any suggestions how to tighten it? It doesn't seem to wobble just when i put my hand in I can see it move...
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I must have small hands then as I didnt have an issue, ive just changed dipped beam and side light bulbs..... or perhaps it depends on the engine you have to how much room you have???
It is the main beams that are the challenge - the lamp unit has a particulalrly deep cowl on the back.
Forceps delivery using a small mirror was the best way I found.
 
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Fingers crossed and all, but I may have solved my problems, which were (a) rubbish dipped beam on the Brera, (b) difficulty of changing bulbs and (c) the idiot previous owner that lost one of the little clips that holds the bulbs in.
Taking the last first, a friend in the trade suggested trying unfranchised alfa specialists. I was lucky enough to get in touch with Eddy at Alfaman, in Harrow (Alfaman Services Limited - Alfa Romeo Specialists Garage in London), who found me a clip and sold it me for £9.99. With everyone else saying I would have to buy a whole new light unit, that is a bargain. Thanks Eddy, I wish you weren't quite so far away.
To try to improve the beam, I bought some Philips X-treme Power +80% bulbs from Car Lights - Car Bulbs - Headlights - Wiper Blades - Xenon Bulbs | Autobulbs Direct Ltd. A useful website and quick delivery.
With the excuse of Christmas and the bad weather, I put off the fitting for a bit but with the help of a pair of very long (nearly 1 foot handle to tip) long nose pliers it wasn't too bad, although worse on the drivers side (RHD car). On a tip from Eddy, I put some twine on the springs to catch them just in case they popped off and dropped into the innards. Mind you, the main beam looks a lot more difficult. How hard would it be to take out the whole headlamp unit?
Anyway, I now have a dipped beam which is really good, so top marks to the Phillips bulbs.
BTW, I've just come to the conclusion that when you buy an Alfa you get a hobby for free.
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I changed dipped beams in a few minutes, the parking/stand lights in a few more...

The main beam just drove me nuts - I started with passenger side and now old lamp is out and the new one couldn't be seated properly - I've given up... I will have a go on another day. Should've checked this thread before starting!
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Maybe it's my experience changing bulbs on renault modus (that was bumper off, lamp out job) that helps here, but i can change all bulbs on my 159 blindfolded in few minutes.
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