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Recently acquired a 159jtdm which has a whining gearbox. I donít have any stick movement nor does noise get any worse in 5th and 6th so suspect my issue is not the usual bearing.
My noise is constant from about 15mph upwards is this likely to be shaft bearings or diff bearings?

I noticed on test drive and negotiated a discount with seller,they have also put a warranty on car for 6 months but I am not holding out much hope of them covering it as they are a slippery bunch at warranty assist.

So is it worth changing oil initially or going straight for bearing change?
Also has anyone managed to do bearings with box in situ? I am probably going to go down modified end case route should the box need complete strip down.
My clutch and DMF are fairly new had they been on way out then box out would be a no brainer,but if it can be done in situ then I am more inclined to do it that way.
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as you say a little unusual for it to happen in every gear, mine was more noticeable above about 50mph in 5th and 6th, though the bearing in question is used in 1,2,5 and 6th gear. Your profile doesn't have your location in, but A&S in Halifax do it in situ for £375.
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Sorry should have updated the details in profile,I am in Wiltshire so not close enough to Halifax.
Nice to know it can be done in situ though👍
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If anybody knows of any m32 repairers in Somerset please let me know. The 159 makes such a noise in 5th and 6th its now living in my mums garage till I sort out what to do with it.
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Where in som are you? I read about a place in chard that did bearings for someone and they were pleased with cost and result. John Beer Motors was the name of garage
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I'm in Glastonbury but i work in Crewkerne, which is next door to Chard, it will have to be taken on a trailer so thats not much of a problem. Many thanks for the reply I'll give that garage a google.
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A&s in halifax are very well thought of and even allowing for fuel there and back plus even an overnight stay will be the cheapest and best option.
It is worth changing the oil though, even if its just to check for lots of metal bits and to cause less damage on the journey north.
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Might be an idea to take the gearbox out and ship it to them on pallet freight, be worth it for a decent repair thanks for the info.
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Might be an idea to take the gearbox out and ship it to them on pallet freight, be worth it for a decent repair thanks for the info.
The reason they are so cheap is that they do it in situ. The expensive bit is taking the box out, so ruins the point.
We took the kids up for the day, the kids museum Eureka in nearby Halifax kept them busy whilst it was being done.
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The reason they are so cheap is that they do it in situ. The expensive bit is taking the box out, so ruins the point.
We took the kids up for the day, the kids museum Eureka in nearby Halifax kept them busy whilst it was being done.
Cheers guys certainly given me something to think about,I donít mind travelling for a decent repair especially if it is a good price.
Is that price for a full bearing change?
Whoever I get to do the repair I am thinking of sorting bits myself with modified case and lower shaft bearing.
Gonna change oil in the meantime and overfill while I arrange a suitable time to be off the road.
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as you say a little unusual for it to happen in every gear, mine was more noticeable above about 50mph in 5th and 6th, though the bearing in question is used in 1,2,5 and 6th gear. Your profile doesn't have your location in, but A&S in Halifax do it in situ for £375.
It's £275, I had it done last weekend. Absolute bargain.
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It's £275, I had it done last weekend. Absolute bargain.
Was that full bearing change or just the common small bearing you had done? Bargain price though that is it could well be worth a drive up there.
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Yes £275 (mis remembered it as £375).
They replace the bearings on both ends of the shaft that has 1,2,5 and 6 on. You may know that this is the shaft that gives the problems as it essentially sits above the water line (or rather oil line) and gets its lubrication solely from splashing in the casing.
For me it was a no brainer,
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as you say a little unusual for it to happen in every gear, mine was more noticeable above about 50mph in 5th and 6th, though the bearing in question is used in 1,2,5 and 6th gear. Your profile doesn't have your location in, but A&S in Halifax do it in situ for £375.
That sounds a bargain. its always been a bit of a worry for me as I'm on 150000, original clutch and gearbox . almost worth a trip from brighton to halifax if it ever gives up !

The sceptic in me wonders how many have been charged for a g box removal when it is an in situ job ?
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That sounds a bargain. its always been a bit of a worry for me as I'm on 150000, original clutch and gearbox . almost worth a trip from brighton to halifax if it ever gives up !

The sceptic in me wonders how many have been charged for a g box removal when it is an in situ job ?

To be fair, it really should be a removal job (to do all the bearings), but it's only really the top bearings that go (unless you leave it far too long!), mine went around 105k but to be honest I was paranoid for ages and so got it sorted at the first sign of noise. I know a few people who have had it for 10K+. The guy does it in around 2 1/2 hrs, amazing!
Most of the quotes for full removal are around £600 mark.
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For that price they take the whole gear cluster out and change all the bearings I follow them on facebook and he rekons to stick with the original end casing as the modified type has its own issues.
I wouldn't worry about supplying your own parts, for that price let the guy use his own parts.
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Cheers for the reply and advise,that really is a good price for all the bearings to be changed. Hear what you are saying about the end case don?t suppose he said what sort of problems the modified one has did he?
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Just been looking at a&s online it looks like they have got hundreds of happy customers from all marques with this box fitted to them. Safe to say I will be changing my box oil and over filling slightly for the 500 mile round trip to have mine done. Amazing they can change all gearset bearings in situ within 3 hours for £275.
That?s how you build up a business charging a fair price for a decent service,shame more companies in the motor trade can?t be like them.
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Yes £275 (mis remembered it as £375).
They replace the bearings on both ends of the shaft that has 1,2,5 and 6 on. You may know that this is the shaft that gives the problems as it essentially sits above the water line (or rather oil line) and gets its lubrication solely from splashing in the casing.
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To be fair, it really should be a removal job (to do all the bearings), but it's only really the top bearings that go (unless you leave it far too long!), mine went around 105k but to be honest I was paranoid for ages and so got it sorted at the first sign of noise. I know a few people who have had it for 10K+. The guy does it in around 2 1/2 hrs, amazing!
Most of the quotes for full removal are around £600 mark.
Mine seems to have got noisier in recent weeks after a long long time of not getting any worse.
5th & 6th gears are the noisiest, but there is a sound in all other gears as well.
I guess I need all bearings doing. Do you know if A & S can do it all in a day? It sounds like the £275 and 2 to 3 hours doesn't include sorting 3rd & 4th gear bearings.
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He changes all the gearset bearings, ie every bearing except the diff bearings. I follow him on facebook and he always seams to do 2 a day.
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He told me 3 hours start to finish providing he does not find any other issues while stripping it
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Thanks chaps.
Almost sounds too good to be true, but from my reading up on him, just about everyone says how fantastic he is.
I'll get it booked in.
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Not that it applies to me...but I'm surprised there are not more people offering the service with some being more southerly! Halifax is a long way from the South coast. There are 10s of thousands of theses weak boxes in use in lots of different models...must be good money to be made. Yet I could not find anyone to do the job on one of our work Astra vans in the Chichester area...and had to get a recon box fitted. There is definitely cash to be made by an enterprising southerner!
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All 3 gearbox specialists in my town are well versed in the M32. The trouble is they all want more than twice what the Halifax chap charges to do the bearings.
Amazing value at A & S compared to what seems to be the going rate.
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I did have mine booked in at A&S clutch in the beginning of May. As mine are whining, (2010 62k) However I cancelled as I didn't feel confident in him, when I first contacted him via Facebook he told me I needed to make sure the front subframe bolts loosened before I took it. I couldn't get them shifted, I took it to my local garage to see if they could, they told me if they are forced the captive nuts inside, they are liable to snap resulting in cutting chassis to remove, refit and weld. So I thought better of it. He didn't seem to arsed when I addressed my concerns. Lost all confidence in getting the job done. If you book a car in for a job, you'd expect the garage to do it. Not expect the customer to.
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