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Hi chaps,
Anyone ever replaced an EGR valve on a 1.9 jtd? Not that mechanical but am struggling to get my car fixed
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Loss of power below 3000 revs.
Garage guy cleaned all various soot etc from EGR valve and something behind that.
Engine management fault light now off but is only slightly better.
Problem has been ongoing for 6 months with various attempts at fixes, this being the latest and quite possibly the last I will pay for!
Any help would be a lifesaver.

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Costs about £150 for a genuine brand new egr, however a good second hand off autolusso, less then half that, and with help from the egr guide on here, even without mechanical knowledge would take minutes to fit yourself.

I wouldnt get too set on it deffinatly being the EGR though as it may be the MAF also, look at the known issues sticky at the top of this forum and go to the MCSF errors and have a read for more info.

The garage you took it to, was it an Alfa specialist? If not i would highly recommend going to a specialist as it will save you money on issues like this.

Last edit i think, look in the how to sticky at top of forum, above the known issues, you will find EGR guide in there.

Just read your post again, low power below 3000rpm right? I would change vacuum hoses on turbo, regardless of them looking okay, they cost pence, if all that fails, could be a dirty turbo.

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Hi chaps,
Anyone ever replaced an EGR valve on a 1.9 jtd? Not that mechanical but am struggling to get my car fixed
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Loss of power below 3000 revs.
Garage guy cleaned all various soot etc from EGR valve and something behind that involved hundred quid labour. Engine management fault light now off but is only slightly better. Rang them and they said no split hoses and nothing obvious and all he can suggest is a new EGR valve, something that looked like a carburetor.
Sorry for lack of tech knowledge but anyone know how much one costs and how much the garage would want to fit. Dont want to be taken advantage of but problem has been ongoing for 6 months with various attempts at fixes, this be the latest and quite possibly the last I will pay for.
Any help would be a lifesaver.
i have removed mine in the past and completly stripped it and cleaned it. not a difficult job to do. but are you sure its the egr? no power and black smoke = stuck open egr. just no power could be air flow meter or. all assuming no split pipes. do you have a mcsf lit? anyways a new egr is about £100-£130, airflow is about £80 - £100, dont cheap no brand airflow meters you will waste you money. fitting is not difficult so £100 to fit a egr seems steep to me. an air flow is a bit more involved as its under the battery(on 147). if you get stuck i will help you, i also have daig software to help.
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Have a look at ebay and remember that Vauxhalls/SAABs use the same engine and are usually cheaper for parts.
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Cheapset on eBay at the moment is £81.00UKP delivered for a new one.

Z19DTH EGR

However it's possible yours is OK, just needs fully dismantling and cleaning. Not only does the EGR need to be split in half and cleaned, the solenoid also needs knocking out and cleaning so that it operates smoothly. There's a great guide in the sticky at the top of the forum, show that to your mechanic.

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If he is getting his mechanic to open it up and clean it out it may well be cheaper to buy a new one
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- where about are you in manchester?
- which garage have you been taking your car to?

I've taken my EGR apart several times ...if you want to try it yourself and get stuck, i'll help out

one way to tell for sure if it is the EGR is to fit this and see if all the problems dissapear! ...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VD-EGR-bla...item337d37e65c
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- where about are you in manchester?
- which garage have you been taking your car to?

I've taken my EGR apart several times ...if you want to try it yourself and get stuck, i'll help out

one way to tell for sure if it is the EGR is to fit this and see if all the problems dissapear! ...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VD-EGR-bla...item337d37e65c
Done mine three times and in Manchester. I too am willing to help.
When mine needs cleaning I find that upto 2K RPM it is bad and once at 2.2K RPM it forgets there is an issue. That is until it is so bad it hardly moves at all. Before I knew about the EGR that was what happened.
Lower turbo hose could be an issue, but I think you said the garage had checked?
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Thanks to all who replied.
Engine management fault light back on now so am having it code read tomorrow evening. Hopefully this will point US In the right direction, update when I know more.
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- where about are you in manchester?
- which garage have you been taking your car to?

I've taken my EGR apart several times ...if you want to try it yourself and get stuck, i'll help out

one way to tell for sure if it is the EGR is to fit this and see if all the problems dissapear! ...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VD-EGR-bla...item337d37e65c
I fitted one with an 8mm hole in it as I read on here the mcsf light will come on if you don't allow a little gas through. Would rather blank it completely if I could.

Saying that I jsut cleaned mine the other day and it was fine, not really dirty and the piston moved freely. The MAP sensor was oily and gummed as hell though !!

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I fitted one with an 8mm hole in it as I read on here the mcsf light will come on if you don't allow a little gas through. Would rather blank it completely if I could.

Saying that I jsut cleaned mine the other day and it was fine, not really dirty and the piston moved freely. The MAP sensor was oily and gummed as hell though !!
I cant be cleaning it all the time cleaned mine 8 months ago and already it was sticking again I told the other half it was £140 for a new one or get it deleted for good for £200
then you get a remap for free , well thats the way I sold it to my mrs
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I fitted one with an 8mm hole in it as I read on here the mcsf light will come on if you don't allow a little gas through. Would rather blank it completely if I could.

Saying that I jsut cleaned mine the other day and it was fine, not really dirty and the piston moved freely. The MAP sensor was oily and gummed as hell though !!
just to clarify ....with one single 8mm hole there is no engine management light?
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Hi, no with an 8mm hole drilled in the centre you wont get the eml on as it allows just enough flow

There was a set of Alfa modified gaskets introduced that were basically just solid plates with holes drilled in them which restricted the flow of exhaust gas into the inlet by just enough not to trigger a warning light
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just to clarify ....with one single 8mm hole there is no engine management light?
Yeah I have no warning lights on. The ebay seller I got mine from did 3 versions with either 8mm, 9mm or 10mm holes in them.

As for cleaning the egr....I've had the car just under a year and done 36000 miles in it so far. I've never cleaned the egr until just now, so maybe I was just lucky ?
 
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Just to add......try cleaning the MAP sensor. My car was a little tired at low revs, but still had plenty power. I was just unsure if I was used to the power or it had dropped off a little since I got the car. Cleaning the MAP sensor brought back a smoother and more urgent ride again. MPG also increased by about 3 for my daily run of 140 miles.
 
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Code just been read and wasP1235 Turbo Pressure Signal
Suspect this may be a MAP sensor issue but will have a thorough search on here to see what people have posted previously re1235 .Thanks to all again for advice. Will update as this goes on.
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Yeah I have no warning lights on. The ebay seller I got mine from did 3 versions with either 8mm, 9mm or 10mm holes in them.

As for cleaning the egr....I've had the car just under a year and done 36000 miles in it so far. I've never cleaned the egr until just now, so maybe I was just lucky ?
cheers ....I might get the drill out

MAP sensor could do with a clean so i'll add that to the agenda.
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any one recommend what to use to clean the map sensor with?
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Could use carb cleaner as well.. It took me about 10 bursts in total with the finer nozzle, wax on-wax off process to get it clean...
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does it make a noticeable difference?...what improves...?
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I didnt..maybe because my lower turbo hose is shot (Autolusso hoses on the way!).. But the JTD has a MAF AND a MAP sensor.. I think, till your MAF sensor is ok, engine understands the air inputs fine
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any one recommend what to use to clean the map sensor with?
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I used carb cleaner spray. Then used a can of air duster to dry it.
 
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