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Upper wishbone joints made of cheese!

God Damnit!

My last pair of upper wishbones failed the MOT on the upper pivot (too much play) and had lasted 25k miles. The current pair clonk like mad at the ball joint - I can get both sides to clonk by grabbing the wheel at the top and giving it a good pull. These have lasted 22k miles, yet pased the MOT just 4 months ago.

And at £100 a side to change this gets quite expensive every 18 months.

Would the poly bushes last longer?
How can I be sure that the guy who fits them isn't using cheapo pattern parts?
How many miles do your upper wishbones last?

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Would the poly bushes last longer?
The problem with poly bushes is that it isn't going to stop the ball-joints wearing and when they go a new arm is needed anyway.
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They're also to hard for road use to be honest.
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Ive always found the bushes wear out faster than the ball joint or to put it another way they can be pulled from side to side cos the bushes are worn.The "made of cheese type" are only about £25 each and take an hour to fit so its not bad if they last just even10,000 miles.
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Mine would appear to be clonking again having been fitted in January and have covered just 10K miles. State of the roads certainly doesn't help, however this is just too short a life span TBH. We'll see what the MOT brings on 21st.

Oh and my arms are OEM, not aftermarket ones . . . . . .
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Oh and my arms are OEM, not aftermarket ones . . . . . .
Were the fixing bolts changed at the same time? Seems a lot of 'premature failures' are a result of the same worn bolt being used to attach the new wishbones. Stands to reason that when two parts are rubbing against each other they should both be replaced at the same time, but too many fitters are cutting corners.

Where'd you get them done BTW (was it a certain place in a town full of roundabouts?!)
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My 156 is 12-years old, I've owned it from new and it has only had ONE set of upper bushes.
All the other wishbones/links are original and are fine.
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Do you drive it or is it on display in a museum





What's the mileage on it out of interest ?
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Do you drive it or is it on display in a museum





What's the mileage on it out of interest ?
About 120000miles and I don't drive like an old woman either.
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That's good going
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My 156 is 12-years old, I've owned it from new and it has only had ONE set of upper bushes.
All the other wishbones/links are original and are fine.
What's your secret DC?
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Where'd you get them done BTW (was it a certain place in a town full of roundabouts?!)
Hhhmm ... is there something you want to share with the world about said certain place in the land of a million roundabouts ?

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I made my own top arm bushes ages ago and are not to hard for road use.
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What's your secret DC?
I'll second that. Is it changing all the other attachment parts as suggested by r11co ?

It might even be that residue left behind by a certain well know household water repellant ?
 
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(was it a certain place in a town full of roundabouts?!)
Yup . . . . . . .
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Thre are a few examples on this forum of them being goosed at as low as 10k, probably just bad luck to be on the low end of the bell curve.
 
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I made my own top arm bushes ages ago and are not to hard for road use.
What did you make them from ? The old Kawasaki Unitrak quick rot roller bearings could be replaced with nylon tube cut to length from the RS catalogue ? Similar method ?
 
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At 78k miles PJ Motors, Tamworth fitted them.
At 104k miles Intaservices, Leicester fitted them.

Car now on 126k miles. 60% of my milage is on motorways, but each day that I drive to work I have to negotiate 8 traffic calming measures (4 speed cushions that I can't quite straddle and 4 table-tops). Each way.

I have no reason to doubt the quality/source/origin of the components. It would a foolish operation that fits internet cheapos that may fail within one year.

I shall ask about the fixing bolts.
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m 147 in now 11 years old and to my knowlage with the ammount of paperwork i have for it,it is still on all original wishbones,it looks underneath as iff its never been in the rain not a spot of corrosion to be seen on anything very strange for an alfa,ive had new non registered alfas on the ramps in the past with more rust than mine
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What did you make them from ? The old Kawasaki Unitrak quick rot roller bearings could be replaced with nylon tube cut to length from the RS catalogue ? Similar method ?
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I suspect there would be a market for these. Any plans to make any more (me first in the queue...... )?
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I suspect there would be a market for these. Any plans to make any more (me first in the queue...... )?
If I still worked there I would have made more
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just wondering if this is the same problem I've got....under a more spirited right foot from the lights there is is loud knocking from the front suspension, it also feels like the front wheels are bouncing....2001 156 2.0 ?
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...it also feels like the front wheels are bouncing....2001 156 2.0 ?
That would normally be wornout dampers.
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