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Not been on for a few days but looks like you've been busy, Mark!

I wonder when they actually changed those front bolts for the "later" types then. I just (wrongly) thought it would have come with the facelift! I'm guessing you can probably use the replacement bolts though as the threads are quite long and should take a nut the other side?

I think you're gonna need heat to be applied before they even think of shifting. I used a lot of blowtorch power to get both ends of mine done, in conjunction with the freeze spray (obviously not both immediately together!!)

Unlucky with the lower rear bolt. Not a lot you can replace that with other than a new one unfortunately. And yeah those droplink nuts can be hours of fun. Put TWO on each thread when you replace them - they'll come straight off next time you need them to!
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hi mate

how will the 2 nuts on each help?

you will still need to use the allen key which is alot smaller than i think it should be or why do they use a nut instead?

please explain about the 2 nuts (i am a bit slow on the uptake usually) lol

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how will the 2 nuts on each help?

you will still need to use the allen key which is alot smaller than i think it should be or why do they use a nut instead?

please explain about the 2 nuts (i am a bit slow on the uptake usually) lol
I think he just means to cover the thread.
A blob of grease would do the same job...!

When we did mine we cleaned the threads with a thread die before removing the nuts and the all the droplinks came off with no issues and were reused.
The only bolt that took time was the front pinch bolt.
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I did indeed mean to cover the thread. A blob of grease doesn't do it in derbyshire - soon gets washed off by dirty water / mud / grit / other crud (yeah tried it!!) Can't do it on the fronts unfortunately but the new ones have spanner flats on em - yay!

Thread die is good call, mind. Wire brush doesn't get enough of the corrosion off....
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hi guys

i cant believe what has just happened i have been to my 2 local alfa dealers 1 is twenty minutes one way and 1 is half hour the other platts of longton had 1 bolt and i thought while i was doing 1 i would put another bolt on the other side so went mangos (which pained me because i had a bad experience with there service dept. some years ago i vowed i would not go back) but they had the other bolt and the 2 nuts i needed about £27 all in see picture below to see the difference shocked the parts were on the shelf in the first place

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hi again

what does thread dye do does it desolve corrosion and where do i get it just in case

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Heyup.

Glad you got the bolts but how much?!?!?




Thread die is a tool for cutting threads. If you wind the right size one down the thread of the droplink balljoint it'll clean all the corrosion off it!
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Alfy, well done on your progress so far and many thanks for the photos. At last a definitive answer
Now to decide if it's worth changing my top mounts...
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well the rear is now done all sorted i have put new droplinks on both sides to i have measured from centre of the wheel to the arch and it is 350 mm ish so it has raised the rear about 20mm as i thought

the only worry i have is that i went to pick my mrs up from work and the drivers side rear disc was boiling hot i only took off the caliper and put it back didnt do any work on it so dont know why its binding but when i got back home after picking her up it was a lot cooler and the car seems to roll freely so will see

anyway the rear feels great the front is very bouncy now compared to the rear it feels so much tighter and the ride feels good so now onto the fronts. on nights now for a fortnight but will bring a gas canister home for my blowtorch in the morning and have a go either tomorrow afternoon or wednesday

the pictures below are a before and after the 1 on the left is the before doesnt look much difference but in the flesh you certainly can tell!!

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i cant believe what has just happened i have been to my 2 local alfa dealers 1 is twenty minutes one way and 1 is half hour the other platts of longton had 1 bolt and i thought while i was doing 1 i would put another bolt on the other side so went mangos (which pained me because i had a bad experience with there service dept. some years ago i vowed i would not go back) but they had the other bolt and the 2 nuts i needed about £27 all in see picture below to see the difference shocked the parts were on the shelf in the first place

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Top one is used or has been left to get damp ... I wouldn't have accepted it ...
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erm... I THINK the top one is the one off the car?
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thats right photo cant believe someone thought that was new LMFAO

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I'm sayin nowt - I've misread plenty of posts myself!

Car looks like its coming on well now. Good luck with the fronts and post some more pics when its finished
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thats right photo cant believe someone thought that was new LMFAO

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Don't laugh ... I've been offered parts like this in the past ... and the guy behind the counter swore blind it was new ....

BTW You did say you bought TWO bolts .. read you post again .. it reads like these are two NEW bolts .. and you were suprised at the condition of one. If you had mentioned top one is OLD and bottom NEW, it would have been less
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sorry mate i am only pullin your leg

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hi there

does anyone know torque settings for the rear strut mounting bolts and the front one to the fork clamp (fork)

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well isnt it amazing what a bit of heat can do

stuck the blowtorch on the pinch bolt and came away no problem but only done 1 side the other tomorrow

had to take more stuff off than i thought

had to remove the lower wishbone large bolt,anti rollbar link, and the top wishbone track rod end couldnt get the suspension fork out but everything went well just need a deep 17mm spanner to tighten the nut on the top of the shocker

the only real issue i had was the rubber bush on the bottom of the spring the new spring wouldnt sit right for love nor money i had to trim it a bit to get the spring to seat properly

the ride has lowered about 20mm looks good in the flesh will try and do the other side tomorrow then get the tracking done and measure everything again

does anyone know all the torque settings for all the important bolts?

look at the pinch bolt in excellent condition with that much locktite on it you wouldnt believe

anyway more postings tomorrow

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hi again

the pictures of the wagon side view are the 1 on the left is before anything was done and on the right is after today how much flatter does it sit

hope you all likey!!!

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It looks so much better afterwards

I think someone has stuck some horrible black things on the doors though..
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I have been waiting for these pics

Thanks for sharing Mark, but my opinion is that the rear is still a little bit low though, will wait for final pictures
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cheers blazo mine is higher than before because the rears were shot but if you use your original top mounts the rear would be about 10-15mm higher mine will settle so give it a few weeks and i will measure again but let me do the other side today and then i will measure again later.

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Heyup. It's looking well matey and yeah that heat makes all the difference in getting the bolts out doesn't it!

btw I THINK it's an 18mm nut on the front struts, or was that my 145? Curse my lousy memory!!

AND if you can find a good source for a deep drop spanner that fits can you post it here? I need one too!!
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you mean the spanner for the top of the strut?

its a 19mm spanner on the front nut but because it is square if will move a little but not come undone



if thats the spanner you mean i think i have got one off my old man but i think machine mart do them i will find out

well what a t##t of a day yesterday was excellent today...well....i ended up cutting the bottom off the shocker to get the fork out now i have got to drill the bolt out of the fork now it is on my workbench and i think i have knackered my top wishbone on the passenger side...today i would rather forget

b####y alfas i f#####g love em but god do they infuriate (speeling s##t) me

oh well

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hi there

found these at machine mart

Clarke CHT108 7-Pce Deep Offset Ring Spanner Set - Machine Mart

not a bad price either

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Hey now they could be just the job if they fit! Yeah the one on top, that you tighten whilst holding the piston still with an allen key.

good find!

I know what you mean about some of the suspension jobs. But then I've worked on other cars (like my mate's old 2000 reg'd BMW 318 when it was only 3 yrs old) that were FAR worse!!
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