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Rather quiet on the 4C front

But in just over a month we will have a flood of initial driving impressions from the press track day
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During waiting: a big AR dealer told me that there will not be more than 1.000 units per year. Main reason is the lack of a homologation and 1.000 seems to be the magic size. We will see.
I think due to a success of the new Maserati Ghibli the factory could reach its capacity soon.
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But in just over a month we will have a flood of initial driving impressions from the press track day
When and where is the press track day?
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don't worry Perreby, Italy basically shuts down over August, as the entire country goes on vacation
Pretty normal that no further news have been released over the last couple of weeks..
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Jip well aware of the holidays in August.

When I ordered my Giulietta a few years ago my ETA was changed due to the August holidays.

CPE its said to be last or second last weekend of September at Balocco
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School holidays in italy end 7th of september.
Maserati factory staff should be in good condition then ;-)
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During waiting: a big AR dealer told me that there will not be more than 1.000 units per year. Main reason is the lack of a homologation and 1.000 seems to be the magic size. We will see.
I think due to a success of the new Maserati Ghibli the factory could reach its capacity soon.
1000 for Europe, but not worldwide.

The Ghibli is built in Turin, the 4C in Modena.
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Fiat auto have spent a lot of cash on the old Bertone plant on Corso Allamano, very imposing from the road. I was lead to believe Quattroporte and Ghibli will be built there, saw a few in the front compound the other day.
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my latest news:
My dealer told me that he will be in italy due to more information about the 4C mid of october! No further news about delivery dates or anything else.
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Have a Look at this

All details of the Alfa Romeo 4C | AutoEdizione.com

"Deliveries of the first series called ‘Launch Edition’ most probably will not start before next year."

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I don't like black cars, but the lights would look good on black, I think. Ultra-stealthy.
The main reason is that I'd want some colour in the interior, so black leather is a last-resort.
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And so it starts!!

We will be seeing a lot of press time for the 4C pretty soon..

Digital preview of the new issue of CAR magazine Car Magazine
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47k is steeper than i was imagining. Not much of a difference compared to the 52k LE.

I was thinking it would be less than 45k!
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And so it starts!!

We will be seeing a lot of press time for the 4C pretty soon..

Digital preview of the new issue of CAR magazine Car Magazine
Booyah! A few more days and we will know more details about the way 4C drives I love how the article begins: "Still want a Cayman?"
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Booyah! A few more days and we will know more details about the way 4C drives I love how the article begins: "Still want a Cayman?"
I like this more "turnover, and find out why the 4C will be the greatest Alfa for a generation"
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I like this more "turnover, and find out why the 4C will be the greatest Alfa for a generation"
And yet we can't turnover the page just yet, what a tease
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I like this more "turnover, and find out why the 4C will be the greatest Alfa for a generation"
I hope they've actually road tested one, not simply regurgitated the marketing BS.

All speculation for now as could turn out to be a right spud (doubt it, but could).
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The magazine has been available all week in UK. They do not drive it, just ride as passenger
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Time to experience the 4C ourselves. The exposed and polished carbonfibre sill is slight, so getting in and out is easier than you'd expect, the leather-clad carbon bucket seats are surprisingly broad and comfortable, there's headroom aplenty, and your feet rest on a big aluminium kick plate. A thick black leather strap pulls the lightweight door closed. It's a very focussed cabin, with the dashboard and air-con controls angle towards the driver, who looks back on a flat-bottomed steering wheel and a digital screen dominated by a big rev-counter that turns white to yellow as the engine approaches the redline. There's a conventional handbrake (joy of joys!) but the paddleshifts are small and plasticky.
Despite the carbon chassis it's remarkably refined when the engine fires into life, and the 4C rides with the fluent and supple nature of a Lotus Elise, though it's perhaps a little firmer. The turbo'd four-pot is deep and pleasingly gruff, and most importantly the the 4C feels light and agile, with very little inertia to overcome when we're on the brakes, on the throttle or changing direction. The gearshifts are fast but not Porsche PDK quick, the traction control cuts in as our driver attacks the tight corners, and then all too soon our tantalising time in the 4C is over
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Time to experience the 4C ourselves. The exposed and polished carbonfibre sill is slight, so getting in and out is easier than you'd expect, the leather-clad carbon bucket seats are surprisingly broad and comfortable, there's headroom aplenty, and your feet rest on a big aluminium kick plate. A thick black leather strap pulls the lightweight door closed. It's a very focussed cabin, with the dashboard and air-con controls angle towards the driver, who looks back on a flat-bottomed steering wheel and a digital screen dominated by a big rev-counter that turns white to yellow as the engine approaches the redline. There's a conventional handbrake (joy of joys!) but the paddleshifts are small and plasticky.
Despite the carbon chassis it's remarkably refined when the engine fires into life, and the 4C rides with the fluent and supple nature of a Lotus Elise, though it's perhaps a little firmer. The turbo'd four-pot is deep and pleasingly gruff, and most importantly the the 4C feels light and agile, with very little inertia to overcome when we're on the brakes, on the throttle or changing direction. The gearshifts are fast but not Porsche PDK quick, the traction control cuts in as our driver attacks the tight corners, and then all too soon our tantalising time in the 4C is over
Yes so far only passenger rides have been given.. Only at the press day with they finally get to drive the 4C themselves.. And that will only come towards the end of September.
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Fairly standard new car release experience from all the car mags, who are very carefully manipulated by the manufacturers marketing people... it usually goes like this:

1) some teaser info of a new concept car before a big motor show... on the back of this the car mags all generate some "photoshop" images.
2) Loads of pictures at the motorshow, some techy info on potential engines/chassis/etc. An interview with designers.
3) all goes quiet for a few months.
4) Some leaks about discussions on if the project is financially viable.
5) Another motor show appearance ... this time in a different continent and in a different colour.
6) speculation from car magazines on potential production dates and some more photoshops, plus stories about where it will be built.
7) Grand announcement that project is given go ahead, with production scales and cost estimate etc.
8) Spy shots...
9) more photo shops.. this continues for 2 years or so.
10) Press release ahead of motor show for production version.
11) Big disappointment of the production version as interior is not so sexy as the concept and the exterior has to be changed due to production realities. No-one likes the headlights ! and almost everyone who liked the concept version would never have bought it anyway!
12) Tech details are slowly spoon fed to favoured journalists, and reality dawns on costs... and availability.
13) Orders taken.
14) Some journalists get to ride in a pre-production mule...
15) Some journalists get to ride in a production spec car - (Where we are now)
16) Road test on local to manufacturer test track
17) Road test on local to manufacturer roads.
18) Road test against competitors
19) Finally a full blown road test in you own country's versions...
20) Customers shocked at how much extra they had to pay compared to initial predicted costs back at stage 7!

I think in the 4C's case there will also be some people speculating and selling off quickly to make a fast buck or two.

I'll probably consider buying a 4C at stage 20 + 3 Years by which stage I'll be about 60 and be unable to get in and out of a 4C easily
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